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Isar Aerospace reaches orbit and deploys payloads on second flight

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Re: Isar Aerospace reaches orbit and deploys payloads on second flight

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It might interest folks to learn: > Incidentally, the early investment for Isar came from Bülent Altan, the Turkish ex-SpaceX guy who was in charge of the guidance system for Falcon-1, Falcon-9 and Dragon. [0] It turns out that Altan was an angel investor in Isar, and then co-founded VC firm Alpine Space Ventures [1] and continued to invest in Isar, among other space ventures in Europe. [0] https://news.ycombinator.c…

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The enterprising Germans all left for the US to make bread

Re: Isar Aerospace reaches orbit and deploys payloads on second flight

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Congratulations to those who have worked so hard to make this happen. I wish you continued success. It is great that they have realized both mission targets on their second flight attempt.

I think the more options there are for access to space, the more likely we are as a species to launch useful payloads that will help us understand how we fit in and how we can better manage our own situation. It is disconcerting to see the night sky fill with constellations of satellites but there is hope that they will be used for productive purposes.

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SpaceX is incredibly cheaper than Isar per pound, but if you only need a couple thousand pounds lifted, unless a RideShare or Transporter mission is available and suitable, you won’t by buying a SpaceX launch for $15 million.

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Congrats to Isar Aerospace. If any nation in Europe that can start a new space frontier, that would be the Germans and I hope Isar would get strong support from the Bavarian state to be a neck-on-neck competitor to SpaceX.

Congrats to Isar but I think you don't understand the scale difference here and the immensity of what it would take to be a neck-on-neck competitor to SpaceX. The orders of magnitude of launch efficiency are... starting to become staggering.

Isar is a good fallback for sovereignty and national defense! But, if Germany wants to compete with SpaceX in earnest, they will need to re-orient a large portion of their national economy around it. They are raising something like $100 billion for their launch complex in LA currently.

Re: Isar Aerospace reaches orbit and deploys payloads on second flight

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Many Americans are in the middle of the death throes of empire the world is moving on and as an American. That’s fine with me Lake Ontario forever ha.ha.ha…

As an American, would say more than half our country actually agrees with you. Trumps approval rating has fallen to 39% while 58% disapprove. Yeah, a lot of us in the US are in just as much amazement as the rest of the world at the crazy and petty actions he takes. So we’re just bidding our time, waiting until the midterm elections to weaken the right, and then afterwards, we’ll just be counting the days until he’s o…

And i as an average European just want to say - we feel with you and all the others that are suffering through this. I don't know either what I could or would do if my own government went this route. I hope your institutions and the people's resilience will overcome this dark chapter of American history and build a better foundation on top.

Re: Isar Aerospace reaches orbit and deploys payloads on second flight

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Your link is about limiting the sales of Belgian weapons on the basis of Belgian legislation.

A quick Google search will find you plenty of European legislation. And you should look at those laws like the Belgian laws here, like they were a company "Values" document. That is how the EU/Belgium (and other countries) react "by default", but specific treaties explicitly create exceptions to those rules between specific parties. So like this: exporting guns and ammo is certainly not something any country allows t…

You missed the point. The example asked for was this:

"I'm not aware of any sale of a US weapons system containing European parts being blocked by any European government."

That would be something like "Belgium says the USA can't sell F-35s to Israel because the wings are Belgian-made" similar to how the USA prevents ASML from selling their machines to China.

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It's not France. The locals like that France gives them goodies so they vote for more goodies and France gives more goodies so they vote accordingly.

So you are opposed to self-determination. Glad we cleared that up. Who then gets to decide? You?

>Who then gets to decide? You?

It's a new world. He who has the biggest guns makes the rules.

I don't like it, but in the Caribbean [probably throughout the world] these days, you really are dealing with the raw realities of power in a way you didn't have to previously.

I doubt the EU has the stomach to confront Trump. And French Guiana is not Africa, there will be no China coming to save them.

Re: Isar Aerospace reaches orbit and deploys payloads on second flight

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> space on Earth. I have different take on this. We already shown significant decline in Fertility rate of whole world. Its right now 2.2 against nearly 5 in 1950s till 1970. 2.1 is replacement only. So, we are sorted there from occupying Glaciers,Mountains, etc. Moreover, Average age of many countries are increasing. That might need support in near future. Migration is filling up that gap in Western world. As per cu…

People aren't making more children because they largely can't afford to, either in actual resources, or in time spent. And, unlike in a rural community, children don't have any "return on investment" - plus, you generally have to raise them alone even when they're no longer toddlers, rather than relying on an entire community to do it together. There's no great mystery, and a colony on Mars will not change this even…

> because they largely can't afford to, either in actual resources, or in time spent

But that's absolutely not true. People are so wealthy right now that they can afford practically an unlimited amount of children. The avoidance of having children is almost entirely shaped by the cultural environment and not economic environment.

> relying on an entire community to do it together

I am not sure that it ever was a case. "Relying on an entire community" to raise children generally meant that children were raised mostly by themselves.

Re: Isar Aerospace reaches orbit and deploys payloads on second flight

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There will be some chain reaction up there in near future, in our lifetime only. Congratulation to the team. These milestones are necessary to advancement of human race as we need new planets to occupy. But, we needed clear path going forward. I am both pro to advancement but with caution kind of guy.

> These milestones are necessary to advancement of human race as we need new planets to occupy. We can't even positively terraform Earth to stop the climate crisis here. Why does anyone think we need to be terraforming elsewhere? Just terraform here!!! Make the planet we are on more hospitable to human life! It's not like we're running out of space, and the global population is about to start dropping.

> Just terraform here!!! Make the planet we are on more hospitable to human life!

We are doing it right now. It just for some reason some people call it "climate crisis".

From a scientific perspective in case of the Earth "more hospitable to human life" = "warmer".

Re: Isar Aerospace reaches orbit and deploys payloads on second flight

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

So you are opposed to self-determination. Glad we cleared that up. Who then gets to decide? You?

> Who then gets to decide? You? It's a new world. He who has the biggest guns makes the rules. I don't like it, but in the Caribbean [probably throughout the world] these days, you really are dealing with the raw realities of power in a way you didn't have to previously. I doubt the EU has the stomach to confront Trump. And French Guiana is not Africa, there will be no China coming to save them.

I doubt that HN user yostrovs is Trump.
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