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Isar Aerospace reaches orbit and deploys payloads on second flight

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Re: Isar Aerospace reaches orbit and deploys payloads on second flight

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> Deep down, we're an annoyingly arrogant little country with delusions of grandeur salivating at the thought to prove to our EU neighbors how strong we meant it when we said we would accept to oppose the US in case of military attack and I think they knew we may actually mean it and not back down when it start (see also: Denmark leak about how France was essentially willing to provide whatever to help defend Greenla…

If Mélenchon wins it will evolve to an even stronger stance against imperialism. He is labeled "anti-american"

...Against US imperialism anyway. His credentials when it comes to other empires isn't spotless.

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Must be incredibly humbling experience to not realize EU is a union of independent countries and the US is a federation of states until you work for one of the delegations, wasn't it? Most of us pick up on that even without professional experience about it.

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> we were sold on this dream that Europe would become like the United States

Sorry but that's just made up bullshit. The EU is not a "United States of Europe", and thinking along that line will ineviatably lead to tons of misconceptions.

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French Guyana is in South America and our Burger friends have reinstated the Monroe doctrine.

Another and more immediate concern is that anything which contains subcomponents/subsystems or parts from US origin companies runs into ITAR and MTCR [1] issues with the US federal government. There's a number of very complex European origin final aviation/aerospace industry products which are laden with US-origin components. I wonder about exactly how "non-US" this Isar rocket is. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…

US military products are also full of European parts.

Re: Isar Aerospace reaches orbit and deploys payloads on second flight

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Congrats to Isar Aerospace. If any nation in Europe that can start a new space frontier, that would be the Germans and I hope Isar would get strong support from the Bavarian state to be a neck-on-neck competitor to SpaceX.

Agreed, but do you think either of the two federal/state governments would even have enough support material available, whether in the form of capital or otherwise (i.e. contracts), to give to Isar Aerospace that would enable them to compete with (at current valuation) a giant like SpaceX?

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This might even influence today's election in Sachsen. With a bit of luck, it could turn a few voters to a more optimistic world view.

Why would it influence the voters in Saxony-Anhalt? The voters are mainly voting AfD because all the other old parties have failed them miserably since the reunification and they don't have any other alternative, because voting for the same parties expecting a different result/future would be insanity.

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Congratulation and great news ! For Europe, but also the world, space access is one of those frontiers we can (and I believe will) see truly opened in my lifetime and I find that truly awesome. Interestingly there still seems to be a difference in approach between "few launch, expected to go well" in europe and "many launch as trial and error" in the US, with other countries falling somewhere in between those two lim…

Did you just compare Belarus and Norway now?

Is Inside-Europe-Norway not better then Belarus? I would consider us (norway) a stable and good partner to the EU.

Give us 25 years and we will join EU if it still exists:)

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Congrats to Isar Aerospace. If any nation in Europe that can start a new space frontier, that would be the Germans and I hope Isar would get strong support from the Bavarian state to be a neck-on-neck competitor to SpaceX.

Agreed, but do you think either of the two federal/state governments would even have enough support material available, whether in the form of capital or otherwise (i.e. contracts), to give to Isar Aerospace that would enable them to compete with (at current valuation) a giant like SpaceX?

Bavaria is one of the most richest (if not the most) state in Germany. By GDP alone it's the 7th largest economy in Europe (https://www.vbw.com/int/About-us/Facts-about-Bavaria/index.j...). Of course they have money to support Isar and they should do it to diversify their economy and break the heavy dependency on auto manufacturers.

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> didn't Macron also say he would deploy French troops in Ukraine? AFAIK, he said he didn’t rule out doing that while the war was ongoing ( https://edition.cnn.com/2024/02/27/europe/france-macron-troo... ), and he signed a declaration of intent to do that if a peace deal with Russia is made ( https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c17zee20qpzo ) Neither are what you imply he said.

> he signed a declaration of intent to do that if a peace deal with Russia is made Interesting. Thanks for letting me know a Ukraine-Russia peace deal will never be signed.

That’s a pretty childish take on a serious subject.
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