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Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by c1sc0 »

dudus wrote: post #540
htrp wrote: post #415

> Apple Intelligence is free for users, and will be available in beta as part of iOS 18, iPadOS 18, and macOS Sequoia this fall in U.S. English. Some features, software platforms, and additional languages will come over the course of the next year. Apple Intelligence will be available on iPhone 15 Pro, iPhone 15 Pro Max, and iPad and Mac with M1 and later, with Siri and device language set to U.S. English. For more i…

English only? That is surprising

The platform talk had a bit more architectural details and it looks like they heavily optimize / compress the Foundation model to run for specific tasks on-device. I'm guessing that sticking to US English allows them to compress the foundation model further?

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by chrisBob »

windowshopping wrote: post #499

The "Do you want me to use ChatGPT to do that?" aspect of it feels clunky as hell and very un-Apple. It's an old saw, but I have to say Steve Jobs would be rolling over in his grave at that. Honestly confused as to why that's there at all. Could they not come up with a sufficiently cohesive integration? Is that to say the rest ISN'T powered by ChatGPT? What's even the difference? From a user perspective that feels re…

Apple is touting the privacy focus of their AI work, and going out to ChatGPT breaks that. I would be reluctant to use any of their new AI features if it weren't for that prompt breaking the flow and making it clear when they are getting results from ChatGPT.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by iLoveOncall »

theshrike79 wrote: post #539
iLoveOncall wrote: post #332

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The way Siri can now perform actions based on context from emails and messages like setting calendar and reservations I can't think of something less exciting than a feature that Gmail has supported for a decade. Overall there's not a single feature in the article that I find exciting (I don't use Siri at all, so maybe it's just me), but I actually see that as a good thing. The least they add GenAI the better.

The difference is that this is on-device and private. Gmail just feeds your emails to Google's servers and they do the crunching. And in the meanwhile train their systems to be better using your content.

It changes nothing about the impressiveness (or lack thereof) of the feature.

Detecting an appointment from an email doesn't even require AI.

You're also over-indexing on the fact that some processing will be done on device. The rest will go to Apple's servers just the same as Google. And you will never know how much goes or doesn't.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by skilled »

markus_zhang wrote: post #549

TBH, I think the IT industry is too concentrated at eating itself. We are happily automating our jobs away and such while the other industries basically just sleep through. I don't want generative AI in my phone. I want someone, or something to book a meeting with my family doctor, the head of my son's future primary school, etc. I don't need AI to do that. I need the other industries (medical/government/education) t…

I wonder if Apple ever approached Google about using Gemini as the flagship integration. I say that because during the keynote I kept thinking to myself, this could be the moment that Google realises it needs to stick to what it knows best - Search - and all they have to do is sit back and watch the hype fade away.

But that’s in a perfect world.

Even to this day, post ChatGPT, I still can’t imagine how I would ever use this AI stuff in a way that really makes me want to use it. Maybe I am too simple of a mind?

Maybe the problem is in the way that it is presented. Too much all at once, with too many areas of where and how it can be used. Rewriting emails or changing invitations to be “poems” instead of text is exactly the type of cringe that companies want to push but it’s really just smoke and mirrors.

Companies telling you to use features that you wouldn’t otherwise need. If you look at the email that Apple rewrote in the keynote - the rewritten version was immediately distinguishable as robotic AI slop.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by triyambakam »

markus_zhang wrote: post #549

TBH, I think the IT industry is too concentrated at eating itself. We are happily automating our jobs away and such while the other industries basically just sleep through. I don't want generative AI in my phone. I want someone, or something to book a meeting with my family doctor, the head of my son's future primary school, etc. I don't need AI to do that. I need the other industries (medical/government/education) t…

> AI is supposed to get rid of the chores, now it leaves us with the chores and take the creative part away. I don't need such AI.

You know I hadn't considered that and I think that's very insightful. Thank you

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

duskhorizon2 wrote: post #536
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #504

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> write nonsense legalese Oh boy. Someone is going to make a lot of money in court finding people who did this.

Nope. I'm not in USA ;)

> not in USA

If you’re somewhere where contracts have meaning, it’s a true statement.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by __MatrixMan__ »

dagw wrote: post #381
epolanski wrote: post #341

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Why wouldn't Microsoft be able to? Anyway, while I see all of your points, none of the things I've read in the news make me excited. Recapping meetings or long emails or suggesting how to write are just...not major concerns to me at least.

Why wouldn't Microsoft be able to? Microsoft seems to have lost all internal cohesion and the ability to focus the entire company in one direction. It's just a collection of dozens of small fiefdoms only caring about hitting their own narrow KPIs with no overall strategic vision. Just look at the mess of competing interest that Windows 11 and Edge have turned into.

Yeah, it's hard to believe that VSCode and Windows are products from the same company. Very different vibes.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by acchow »

markus_zhang wrote: post #549

TBH, I think the IT industry is too concentrated at eating itself. We are happily automating our jobs away and such while the other industries basically just sleep through. I don't want generative AI in my phone. I want someone, or something to book a meeting with my family doctor, the head of my son's future primary school, etc. I don't need AI to do that. I need the other industries (medical/government/education) t…

AI is skipping software integrations the same way cell phone towers (and Starlink) skipped phone wire deployment.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by segmondy »

markus_zhang wrote: post #549

TBH, I think the IT industry is too concentrated at eating itself. We are happily automating our jobs away and such while the other industries basically just sleep through. I don't want generative AI in my phone. I want someone, or something to book a meeting with my family doctor, the head of my son's future primary school, etc. I don't need AI to do that. I need the other industries (medical/government/education) t…

The world has never cared about what you want. Your life has always revolved around the world. Don't like it, you vs the world. Beat it if you can.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by theswifter01 »

blibble wrote: post #419
dieortin wrote: post #404

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You’re not feeding anything by having this feature turned on

I have zero confidence in any privacy or contractual guarantees being respected by the parasitic OpenAI

And they’re parasitic how exactly? Even if they do collect every single of my prompts the benefit of chatGPT outweighs my data being sold
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