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Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by QuinnyPig »

pmarreck wrote: post #392
TechnicolorByte wrote: post #153

Have to say, I was thoroughly impressed by what Apple showed today with all this Personal AI stuff. And it proves that the real power of consumer AI will be in the hands of the platform owners where you have most of your digital life in already (Apple or Google for messaging, mail, photos, apps; Microsoft for work and/or life). The way Siri can now perform actions based on context from emails and messages like settin…

> The way Siri can now perform actions based on context Given that this will apparently drop... next year at the earliest?... I think it's simply quite a tease, for now. I literally had to install a keyboard extension to my iPhone just to get Whisper speech to text, which is thousands of times better at dictation than Siri at this point, which seems about 10 years behind the curve

Ooh, which keyboard extension is this?

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by wtallis »

philwelch wrote: post #326
paradite wrote: post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does Microsoft Office in early days of Mac OS count? I guess not.

Microsoft Office was released five years after the Macintosh; what are you talking about?

The applications that were later bundled into Office were on the Mac pretty early: 1985 for Word and Excel, and the first PowerPoint in 1987 was Mac-only.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by twoWhlsGud »

jl6 wrote: post #377

I can see people using Rewrite all the time. In the grim darkness of the AI future, your friends speak only in language that is clean, sanitized, HR-approved, and soulless.

At work, yes. However, it won't be long until the language you speak will become a feature of your ML driven consumer language service. There will likely be products that reflect your style/ identity/ whatever. And once you reach a certain socioeconomic level, you'll speak a highly customized bespoke dialect that reflects your station in life, just like today but much, much weirder…

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by dieortin »

blibble wrote: post #348
burningChrome wrote: post #303

Am I only person who's reached their threshold on companies forcing and shoving AI into every layer and corner of our lives? I don't even look at this stuff any more and see the upside to any of it. AI went from, "This is kinda cool and quaint." to "You NEED this in every single aspect of your life, whether you want it or not." AI has become so pervasive and intrusive, I stopped seeing the benefits of any of this.

if I can't turn 100% of this botshit off then my iphone's going in the bin I'll go back to a dumbphone before I feed the AI

You’re not feeding anything by having this feature turned on

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by qeternity »

fmbb wrote: post #180
algesten wrote: post #104

"Semantic Index" sure is a better name than "Recall". Question is whether I can exfiltrate all my personal data in seconds?

I mean I can already search my photos for “dog” or “burger” or words in text on photos. Adding an LLM to chat about it is just a new interface is it not?

They are likely implemented very differently. I’m not certain but I imagine the current photos app uses an image model to detect and label objects which you can search against. I expect Semantic Index (by virtue of the name) to be a vector store of embeddings.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by hu3 »

buildbuildbuild wrote: post #370
cedws wrote: post #323

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Circa 2013 Snowden says the intelligence agencies are wiretapping everything and monitoring everyone. In 2024 they don't have to wiretap anything. It's all being sent directly to the cloud. Their job has been done for them.

I hear you but caution against such oversimplification. Advanced Data Protection for iCloud is a thing. Our culture of cloud reliance is truly dangerous, but some vendors are at least trying to E2E data where possible. There are big risks to having a cloud digital footprint, yet clouds can be used “somewhat securely” with encryption depending on your personal threat model. Also, it’s not fair to compare clouds to wir…

iCloud end-to-end encryption is disabled by default.

So by default, user data is not protected.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/102651

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by epistasis »

burningChrome wrote: post #303

Am I only person who's reached their threshold on companies forcing and shoving AI into every layer and corner of our lives? I don't even look at this stuff any more and see the upside to any of it. AI went from, "This is kinda cool and quaint." to "You NEED this in every single aspect of your life, whether you want it or not." AI has become so pervasive and intrusive, I stopped seeing the benefits of any of this.

Currently, AI use has a "power user" requirement. You have to spend a lot of time with it to know what it is and is not capable of, how to access those hidden capabilities, and be very creative at applying it in your daily life.

It's not unlike the first spreadsheets. Sure, they will some day benefit the entire finance department, but at the beginning only people who loved technology for the sake of technology learned enough about them to make them useful in daily life.

Apple has always been great at broadening the audience of who could use personal computing. We will see if it works with AI.

I think it remains to be seen how broadly useful the current gen of AI tech can be, and who it can be useful for. We are in early days, and what emerges in 5-10 years as the answer is obvious to almost no one right now.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by hrdwdmrbl »

29athrowaway wrote: post #314
whalee wrote: post #278

I am deeply disturbed they decided to go off-device for these services to work. This is a terrible precedent, seemingly inconsistent with their previous philosophies and likely a pressured decision. I don't care if they put the word "private" in there or have an endless amount of "expert" audits. What a shame.

Siri and other assistants already do this no?

Yes

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by thuuuomas »

wilg wrote: post #335
burningChrome wrote: post #303

Am I only person who's reached their threshold on companies forcing and shoving AI into every layer and corner of our lives? I don't even look at this stuff any more and see the upside to any of it. AI went from, "This is kinda cool and quaint." to "You NEED this in every single aspect of your life, whether you want it or not." AI has become so pervasive and intrusive, I stopped seeing the benefits of any of this.

The new generative AI stuff has been barely implemented in most products, I don't know how you are experiencing it as pervasive and intrusive. Are you sure you're not just cynical from all flood of negative news stories about AI?

Are you sure you’re not optimistic just bcuz you stand to materially benefit from widespread adoption of chatgpt wrappers?
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