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Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by FireBeyond »

dylan604 wrote: post #125
nkotov wrote: post #83

While I think it's cool and I appreciate Apple crafting better stories on why this is helpful, I still think for the everyday person, they won't really care if it's AI or not.

But Apple's integration means you can use it and not care if it is AI or not. It'll just become part of using iOS (let's face it, that's were the majority of Apple's users will be). From creating a new "genmoji" to any of the other examples of allowing people to do this without know WTF huggingface or the other equally ridiculously named products are. They don't need accounts. They just type a message and decide to p…

> but it looks to me of yet another example of Apple taking products and making them usable to the masses

This is a bit obsequious to Apple. I find it hard to give a cogent argument of how ChatGPT is not "usable to the masses" at this point (and being -used- by the masses).

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Post by dudus »

MetaWhirledPeas wrote: post #479
TechnicolorByte wrote: post #153

Have to say, I was thoroughly impressed by what Apple showed today with all this Personal AI stuff. And it proves that the real power of consumer AI will be in the hands of the platform owners where you have most of your digital life in already (Apple or Google for messaging, mail, photos, apps; Microsoft for work and/or life). The way Siri can now perform actions based on context from emails and messages like settin…

>The way Siri can now perform actions based on context from emails I did not see the announcement. Can Siri also send emails? If so then won't this (like Gemini) be vulnerable to prompt injection attacks? Edit: Supposedly Gemini does not actually send the emails; maybe Apple is doing the same thing?

It doesn't look like it does. It seems to only write the email for you but not send. At least yet.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by ahmeneeroe-v2 »

vjulian wrote: post #472
ethbr1 wrote: post #334

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I always saw this level of personal intelligence to come about at some point, but I didn’t expect Apple to hit it out of the park so strongly. Benefit of drawing people into their ecosystem. It's the benefit of how Apple does product ownership. In contrast to Google and Microsoft. I hadn't considered it, but AI convergence is going to lay bare organizational deficiencies in a way previous revolutions didn't. Nobody…

Could you please explain ‘lay bare organisational deficiencies’? I ask without skepticism.

I assume they mean: expose internal corporate silos/VP-fiefdoms that don't work seamlessly together despite being marketed under the same brand

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

duskhorizon2 wrote: post #484

Some generative AI features are quite useful. I’m already using AI to generate icons for my apps and write nonsense legalese. But one thing when I explicitly creating image by prompting at the third-party server, and another when AI index and upload all my private documents in the cloud. Apple promised: “Independent experts can inspect the code that runs on Apple silicon servers to verify privacy, and Private Cloud C…

> write nonsense legalese

Oh boy. Someone is going to make a lot of money in court finding people who did this.

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Post by skhunted »

doctorpangloss wrote: post #230
TechnicolorByte wrote: post #153

Have to say, I was thoroughly impressed by what Apple showed today with all this Personal AI stuff. And it proves that the real power of consumer AI will be in the hands of the platform owners where you have most of your digital life in already (Apple or Google for messaging, mail, photos, apps; Microsoft for work and/or life). The way Siri can now perform actions based on context from emails and messages like settin…

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I don’t follow your second to last paragraph. It’s called Apple Intelligence. If you want to use something else do so but don’t expect Apple to build its own product and let you use whatever you want for it. Clearly the goal for Apple is to eventually use its own models and be an entirely in house product.

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Post by hackerlight »

LogHouse wrote: post #209
alberth wrote: post #124

Regarding OpenAI, has Apple in its history ever relied so heavily on a 3rd party for software features? (TSMC for hardware, but it seems very un-Apple to be so dependent upon someone else for software capabilities like OpenAI)

I wondered the same, but frankly, what other options are there?

It's going to be easy to substitute in their own LLM behind the API in the future. None of the branding or platform is controlled by OpenAI.

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Post by anonbanker »

jawngee wrote: post #136
rasengan wrote: post #107

There has never been a better time to move to Linux. Have you tried Omakub? Manjaro? Mint? Ubuntu 24? These are polished and complete alternatives and your favorite app probably has a Linux build already!

| These are polished and complete alternatives Are they though? I just setup ubuntu 24 for my son to play games and it's comparatively a very unpolished experience. I'm being very polite when I say that.

Ubuntu, sadly, is not a good experience for a multitude of reasons outside of Canonical's control, including codec and software licensing restrictions.

Gamers should absolutely be heading towards Nobara Linux (Fedora-based, created by GloriousEggroll of Proton-GE fame). Developers should be trying Omakub. Grandma and Grandpa should be using Linux Mint.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by slashdave »

visarga wrote: post #428
nottorp wrote: post #103

I have only one question: can I turn it off?

It's one thing to have private information at rest, another to have it indexed, and interpreted by a LLM. What if some virus orders the LLM to search for blackmail material and email it to them? The very act of putting a LLM near your data is a security concern. If someone else orders your Siri to reveal something, it can get to the prize in seconds, with AI help.

A virus can use its own LLM, so I guess you don't want indexing at all. Makes it hard to find stuff.

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Post by thebruce87m »

yencabulator wrote: post #389
jspann wrote: post #129

I remain skeptical until I see it in action. On the one hand, Apple has a good track record with privacy and keeping things on device. On the other, there was too much ambiguity around this announcement. What is the threshold for running something in the cloud? How is your personal model used across devices - does that mean it briefly moves to the cloud? How does its usage change across guest modes? Even the phrase "…

> Apple has a good track record with privacy and keeping things on device. Apple also has a long track record of "you're holding it wrong". I don't expect an amazing AI assistant out of them, I expect something that sometimes does what the user meant.

> Apple also has a long track record of "you're holding it wrong".

And yet this was never said.

Closest was this:

> Just don't hold it that way.

Or maybe this:

> If you ever experience this on your iPhone 4, avoid gripping it in the lower left corner in a way that covers both sides of the black strip in the metal band, or simply use one of many available cases.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by [deleted] »

Toutouxc wrote: post #475
Jtsummers wrote: post #260

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple's phones have, for several years now, been on a tick/tock sort of pattern. iPhone N Pro has the new CPU (15 Pro got the A17) and iPhone N uses the prior gen pro CPU (15 got the A16, which was in the iPhone 14 Pro). So this is probably an A17+ feature. If they stick to form, the iPhone 16 will have the A17 processor and the iPhone 16 Pro will have the A18. That's part of the differentiation between (on the phone…

Actually 15 Pro has the A17 “Pro” SoC, while the regular 15 uses the last gen A16 Bionic (Bionic being the regular version). We don’t know whether the next regular iPhone will get the last-gen A17 Pro (which would be a little confusing), or a “last-gen-but-new” A17 Bionic or if they’ll go with 18 Bionic + Pro.

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