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Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by solarkraft »

singularity2001 wrote: post #77
TIPSIO wrote: post #39

It was a very quick mention, but Siri will now have a text button directly on the lock screen. If we assume AI will get even 3-4x better, at a certain point, I can't help but think this is the future of computing. Most users on mobile won't even need to open other apps. We really are headed for agents doing mostly everything for us.

Except the Intent API is completely crippled. Maybe the next big OS will just let the AI parse existing menus and figure out all the potential actions an app can take. Some actions need complex objects, so we need a new general mechanism for AIs to connect to 'exported functions'. Some general OS rethinking is overdue. Or maybe Android is ready for this? Haven't looked into it since they made development impossible v…

Android theoretically has a pretty rich intent API, but like anything on Android adoption is a big meh.

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Post by dom96 »

constantcrying wrote: post #459
TechnicolorByte wrote: post #153

Have to say, I was thoroughly impressed by what Apple showed today with all this Personal AI stuff. And it proves that the real power of consumer AI will be in the hands of the platform owners where you have most of your digital life in already (Apple or Google for messaging, mail, photos, apps; Microsoft for work and/or life). The way Siri can now perform actions based on context from emails and messages like settin…

I do believe much of what they showed was impressive. It actually seems to realize the "personal digital secretary" promise that personal computing devices throughout the decades were sold on. The most important question to me is how reliable it is. Does it work every time or is there some chance that it horribly misinterprets the content and even embarrasses the user who trusted it.

Yeah, reliability is the crucial bit. Like that example he showed where it checked whether he can make an appointment (by checking driving times), a lot can go wrong there and if the assistant tells you "Yes, you can" but you cannot then I can see lots of people getting angry and not trusting it for anything.

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Post by standardUser »

fdpdkf wrote: post #455

I find the removing people from photos thing creepy. Yes you can remove others to see only your family, but forging the reality to only conform to what you wish is disturbing I think.

Maybe it will remind people that we should never have been mistaking recorded media for reality in the first place, a lesson we've been learning since at least 1917...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cottingley_Fairies

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by duskhorizon2 »

Some generative AI features are quite useful. I’m already using AI to generate icons for my apps and write nonsense legalese. But one thing when I explicitly creating image by prompting at the third-party server, and another when AI index and upload all my private documents in the cloud. Apple promised: “Independent experts can inspect the code that runs on Apple silicon servers to verify privacy, and Private Cloud Compute cryptographically ensures that iPhone, iPad, and Mac do not talk to a server unless its software has been publicly logged for inspection.” There are so many questions: Who’re these experts? Can myself be this expert? Will the server software be open sourced? Well, I will postpone my fears until Apple rolls out AI on devices, but now I see this is a privacy nightmare. Now it’s all looks like Microsoft’s Recall. I afraid that without homogeneous encryption private cloud is a sad joke.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by anonbanker »

mrkramer wrote: post #343

Is it just me or this AI rush is actually about to ruin user experience both on Apple and Microsoft devices? The extra layer of complexity for users who will now be introduced to endless AI features is bloatware in the making.

Just making linux more appealing for the subset of the population that doesn't want to hook into skynet's subpar UX.

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Post by StrLght »

Terretta wrote: post #437
SoftTalker wrote: post #288

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I see no real difference between 2 and 3. Once the data has left your device, it has left your device. There is no getting it back and you no longer have any control over it.

> I see no real difference between 2 and 3. This #2, so-called "Private Cloud Compute", is not the same as iCloud. And certainly not the same as sending queries to OpenAI. Quoting: “With Private Cloud Compute, Apple Intelligence can flex and scale its computational capacity and draw on larger, server-based models for more complex requests. These models run on servers powered by Apple silicon, providing a foundation t…

That's too many words with surprisingly little meaning. I'd suggest to wait for more technical details and to treat this as marketing until then.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by theshrike79 »

WheatMillington wrote: post #345
TechnicolorByte wrote: post #153

Have to say, I was thoroughly impressed by what Apple showed today with all this Personal AI stuff. And it proves that the real power of consumer AI will be in the hands of the platform owners where you have most of your digital life in already (Apple or Google for messaging, mail, photos, apps; Microsoft for work and/or life). The way Siri can now perform actions based on context from emails and messages like settin…

>I always saw this level of personal intelligence to come about at some point, but I didn’t expect Apple to hit it out of the park so strongly That's a little premature, let's try not to be so suckered by marketing.

Apple is again going where Google (the world's largest ad company) cannot follow: 100% user privacy.

They really hammered in the fact that every bit is going to be either fully local or publicly auditable to be private.

There's no way Google can follow, they need the data for their ad modeling. Even if they anonymise it, they still want it.

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