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You’re not feeding anything by having this feature turned on

Right. This thread on the other hand ...

I have curtailed my internet commenting considerably in the last 12 months

it is now almost exclusively anti-AI, which funnily enough I don't mind them training on

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Have to say, I was thoroughly impressed by what Apple showed today with all this Personal AI stuff. And it proves that the real power of consumer AI will be in the hands of the platform owners where you have most of your digital life in already (Apple or Google for messaging, mail, photos, apps; Microsoft for work and/or life). The way Siri can now perform actions based on context from emails and messages like settin…

Some of it will undoubtly be super useful. Things like:

- Proofread button in mail.

- ChatGPT will be available in Apple’s systemwide Writing Tools in macOS

I expect once you'll get used to it, it'll be hard to go without it.

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This seems really cool. They said the models can scale to "private cloud compute" based on Apple Silicon which will be ensured by your device to run "publicly verifiable software" in order to guarantee no misuse of your data. I wonder if their server-side code will be open-source? That'd be positively surprising. Curious to see how this evolves. Anyway, overall looks really really cool. If it works as marketed, then…

> I wonder if their server-side code will be open-source No, but they said it'll be available for audit by independent experts.

How do we sign up to be an independent expert? We need about 50,000 eyeballs on this at all times.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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I wonder if the (free) ChatGPT integration will be so good that I won't need my dedicated subscription anymore?

OAI has already said they'll be giving 4o for free.. https://openai.com/index/gpt-4o-and-more-tools-to-chatgpt-fr...

Difference I suppose with Apple is they agree not to scrape your inputs.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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What’s wrong with the image generation?

I think there's still a myriad of concerns around the ethics of using others uncredited images to power models that aim to disenfranchise artists. but my biggest concern is that I think they look tacky, and putting it right in the messaging apps is gonna be ... irritating.

Emoji, Memoji, stickers, now gen images. Can’t wait to start receiving them from my dad and my mother-in-law in the most absurd of contexts. Like honestly, I like how much the older relatives enjoy weird, tacky stuff like this.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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So, if I've got this correct there's: 1. On-device AI 2. AI using Apple's servers 3. AI using ChatGPT/OpenAI's services (and others in the future) Number 1 will pass to number 2 if it thinks it requires the extra processing power, but number 3 will only be invoked with explicit user permission. [Edit: As pointed out below, other providers will be coming eventually.]

I see no real difference between 2 and 3. Once the data has left your device, it has left your device. There is no getting it back and you no longer have any control over it.

> I see no real difference between 2 and 3.

This #2, so-called "Private Cloud Compute", is not the same as iCloud. And certainly not the same as sending queries to OpenAI.

Quoting:

“With Private Cloud Compute, Apple Intelligence can flex and scale its computational capacity and draw on larger, server-based models for more complex requests. These models run on servers powered by Apple silicon, providing a foundation that allows Apple to ensure that data is never retained or exposed.“

“Independent experts can inspect the code that runs on Apple silicon servers to verify privacy, and Private Cloud Compute cryptographically ensures that iPhone, iPad, and Mac do not talk to a server unless its software has been publicly logged for inspection.”

“Apple Intelligence with Private Cloud Compute sets a new standard for privacy in AI, unlocking intelligence users can trust.”

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> Wouldn't this reduce sales for Grammerly? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherlock_(software)#Sherlocked... > Sherlocked as a term > The phenomenon of Apple releasing a feature that supplants or obviates third-party software is so well known that being Sherlocked has become an accepted term used within the Mac and iOS developer community.[2][3][4]

1Password too.

Well, the Passwords app is just the Passwords section in Settings moved out into its own app. It already exists on Windows, too, but maybe they are updating it to allow autofill without using a Chrome extension or add other features. It isn't the biggest change, just bringing attention to an existing feature that already competes with 1Password et al.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Am I only person who's reached their threshold on companies forcing and shoving AI into every layer and corner of our lives? I don't even look at this stuff any more and see the upside to any of it. AI went from, "This is kinda cool and quaint." to "You NEED this in every single aspect of your life, whether you want it or not." AI has become so pervasive and intrusive, I stopped seeing the benefits of any of this.

You're in for a ride.

This barely scratches the surface on how much AI integration there's going to be in the typical life of someone in the 2030s.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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They didn't have a choice. Doing everything on-device would result in a horrible user experience. They might as well not participate in this generative AI rush at all if they hoped to keep it on-device. Which would have looked even worse for them. Their brand is equally about creativity as it is about privacy. They wouldn't chop off one arm to keep the other, but that's what you're suggesting they should have done. A…

> Doing everything on-device would result in a horrible user experience. They might as well not participate in this generative AI rush at all if they hoped to keep it on-device. On the contrary, I'm shocked over the last few months how "on device" on a Macbook Pro or Mac Studio competes plausibly with last year's early GPT-4, leveraging Llama 3 70b or Qwen2 72b. There are surprisingly few things you "need" 128GB of s…

Yes - but people don't want to pay $4k for a phone with 128GB of unified memory, do they?

And whilst the LLM's running locally are cool, they're still pretty damn slow compared to Chat-GPT, or Meta's LLM.

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