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Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by TheFragenTaken »

TillE wrote: post #135
cube2222 wrote: post #118

This seems really cool. They said the models can scale to "private cloud compute" based on Apple Silicon which will be ensured by your device to run "publicly verifiable software" in order to guarantee no misuse of your data. I wonder if their server-side code will be open-source? That'd be positively surprising. Curious to see how this evolves. Anyway, overall looks really really cool. If it works as marketed, then…

> I wonder if their server-side code will be open-source No, but they said it'll be available for audit by independent experts.

I don't understand why people act like this is a new way of working. Hundreds of ISO certifications require independent audit. Functionally this can be done in many ways, like source code access by human reviewers, or static scanning with signed results. What's important is not who looks, be it PwC, Deloitte, or industry peers. It's important whats being looked for, and what standards are being followed.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by mostlysimilar »

SoftTalker wrote: post #471
Terretta wrote: post #437

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I see no real difference between 2 and 3. This #2, so-called "Private Cloud Compute", is not the same as iCloud. And certainly not the same as sending queries to OpenAI. Quoting: “With Private Cloud Compute, Apple Intelligence can flex and scale its computational capacity and draw on larger, server-based models for more complex requests. These models run on servers powered by Apple silicon, providing a foundation t…

Yes, that's all well and good but assumes no mistakes and no National Security letters ordering them to describe it that way and no changes of control or business strategy at some point in the future. Once the data is out of your possession it's out of your control.

Not everyone has nation states in their threat models. I want privacy from corporations / surveillance capitalism, not the US government. Apple's privacy promises are focused on keeping my data out of the hands of bad actors like Google etc. and that's more than enough for me.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by anonbanker »

crooked-v wrote: post #311
xnx wrote: post #272

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple has largely maxed-out on iPhone market share, so investors probably want to see things more like subscription services than can bring in $XX billions new revenue per quarter.

Or in other words, general late-stage capitalism "anything but exponential growth every quarter is failure" brainworms.

Does anyone else roll their eyes when someone mentions "late stage capitalism" anymore? The meme has started literal decades ago, and the end-stage never seems to materialize, in any country, ever.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by ru552 »

nkotov wrote: post #83

While I think it's cool and I appreciate Apple crafting better stories on why this is helpful, I still think for the everyday person, they won't really care if it's AI or not.

This is exactly what they are going for. You can just ask Siri now "what day did my wife say the recital is?" and Siri spits the answer out without requiring you to go scroll through your messages. Who cares that an LLM did the work?

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by resharpe105 »

LogHouse wrote: post #470
resharpe105 wrote: post #462

Key question is, will there be a hard switch to only ever use on device processing? If not, and if you don’t want practically every typed word to end up on someone else’s computer (as cloud is just that), you’ll have to drop ios. As for me that leaves me with a choice between dumbphone or grapheneOS. I’m just thrilled with these choices. :/

It’s not sending every word to the cloud. I think you must invoke the AI features. Am I wrong?

I understood that it will have the full context of the data on your phone, in order to be ,,useful”.

We are yet to see if that means only the data you’ve invoked ai features for, or totality of your emails, notes, messages, transcripts of your audio, etc.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by b33j0r »

TechnicolorByte wrote: post #153

Have to say, I was thoroughly impressed by what Apple showed today with all this Personal AI stuff. And it proves that the real power of consumer AI will be in the hands of the platform owners where you have most of your digital life in already (Apple or Google for messaging, mail, photos, apps; Microsoft for work and/or life). The way Siri can now perform actions based on context from emails and messages like settin…

I will believe it when siri isn’t the stupidest decade old idea ever. I’m sorry if I sound anything but snarky, but they have had Star Trek abilities this whole time, nerfed for “safety” and platform product integrity —from my iPhone

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by krackers »

skc wrote: post #111

Calling it Apple Intelligence seems a bit short sighted to me considering how quickly things are moving in this space. There's a danger that before long, the stuff Apple will take ages to implement into their devices will seem dated compared to the state of the art less encumbered players will be rolling out. I felt that a few times watching them demo image generation and contextual conversations.

Jack Ma was ahead of his time in calling "AI" Alibaba Intelligence

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by windowshopping »

The "Do you want me to use ChatGPT to do that?" aspect of it feels clunky as hell and very un-Apple. It's an old saw, but I have to say Steve Jobs would be rolling over in his grave at that. Honestly confused as to why that's there at all. Could they not come up with a sufficiently cohesive integration? Is that to say the rest ISN'T powered by ChatGPT? What's even the difference? From a user perspective that feels really confusing.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Post by anonbanker »

rasengan wrote: post #107

There has never been a better time to move to Linux. Have you tried Omakub? Manjaro? Mint? Ubuntu 24? These are polished and complete alternatives and your favorite app probably has a Linux build already!

Trying Omakub in the next 48-72 hours. I can't wait. It looks like the curated experience I've been looking for.
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