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Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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I see no real difference between 2 and 3. Once the data has left your device, it has left your device. There is no getting it back and you no longer have any control over it.

Apple has demonstrated to be relatively trustworthy about privacy while most AI companies have demonstrated the opposite, so I do see a significant difference.

Google was considered very cool and trustworthy at one point also. "Do no evil" and all that.

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Nothing really impressive. Let's see who the stock reacts.

Out of curiosity, what would you have considered impressive?

Hard to tell. That's the whole point.I thought maybe Apple had come up with something - but by and large it is not different from Vision Pro - they have made X feel better, no real one generation ahead stuff. Basically they are not introducing the innovation.

There are two challenges right now for AI - user monetisation and mass adoption. ChatGPT right now is basically a TikTok - a popular app and that's it. Yeah, it has a subscription but by and large, companies are failing to find a way to monetize the user. And at the same time there is no a proper trigger - something that would make AI better than a glorified assistance. For people who used not to rely on it, it won't be a game changer either, just a little bit of convenience.

So it remains to be seen what's going to happen with AI in the future. It seems like the biggest gamechanger introduced by AI is in hardware space - the mass adoption of ARM, NPUs and stuff. Plus it seems like the monetization of AI is done nicely in the companies - Adobe's AI features, Microsoft and their corporate features and so on.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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The "Do you want me to use ChatGPT to do that?" aspect of it feels clunky as hell and very un-Apple. It's an old saw, but I have to say Steve Jobs would be rolling over in his grave at that. Honestly confused as to why that's there at all. Could they not come up with a sufficiently cohesive integration? Is that to say the rest ISN'T powered by ChatGPT? What's even the difference? From a user perspective that feels re…

I agree. Quite odd and not very Apple-ish. I wonder if there’s some good reason for it; it must have been debated internally.

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It seems that the Apple intelligence stuff will be 15 Pro. Man, I just bought a 15 ~8 months ago. That really sucks.

For real, I’m sure a fair amount of previous processors are able to handle it fine, just a reason for ppl to buy the next phone

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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The "Do you want me to use ChatGPT to do that?" aspect of it feels clunky as hell and very un-Apple. It's an old saw, but I have to say Steve Jobs would be rolling over in his grave at that. Honestly confused as to why that's there at all. Could they not come up with a sufficiently cohesive integration? Is that to say the rest ISN'T powered by ChatGPT? What's even the difference? From a user perspective that feels re…

I thought it was the smartest and most pragmatic thing they've announced.

Being best in class for on-device AI is a huge market opportunity. Trying to do it all would be dumb like launching Safari without a google search homepage partnership.

Apple can focus on what they are good at which is on device stuff and blending AI into their whole UX across the platform, without compromising privacy. And then taking advantage of a market leader for anything requiring large external server farms and data being sent across the wire for internet access, like AI search queries.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Some generative AI features are quite useful. I’m already using AI to generate icons for my apps and write nonsense legalese. But one thing when I explicitly creating image by prompting at the third-party server, and another when AI index and upload all my private documents in the cloud. Apple promised: “Independent experts can inspect the code that runs on Apple silicon servers to verify privacy, and Private Cloud C…

> write nonsense legalese Oh boy. Someone is going to make a lot of money in court finding people who did this.

Nope. I'm not in USA ;)

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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>I always saw this level of personal intelligence to come about at some point, but I didn’t expect Apple to hit it out of the park so strongly That's a little premature, let's try not to be so suckered by marketing.

Apple is again going where Google (the world's largest ad company) cannot follow: 100% user privacy. They really hammered in the fact that every bit is going to be either fully local or publicly auditable to be private. There's no way Google can follow, they need the data for their ad modeling. Even if they anonymise it, they still want it.

"100% user privacy."

That is a huge stretch and a signal as to how good Apple is with their marketing.

If they are still letting apps like GasBuddy to sell your location to insurance companies then they are no where near "100% privacy".

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Have to say, I was thoroughly impressed by what Apple showed today with all this Personal AI stuff. And it proves that the real power of consumer AI will be in the hands of the platform owners where you have most of your digital life in already (Apple or Google for messaging, mail, photos, apps; Microsoft for work and/or life). The way Siri can now perform actions based on context from emails and messages like settin…

The image generation is dalle 2.5 level and feels really greasy to me, beyond that I think the overall launch is pretty good! I also congratulate rabbit r1 for their timely release months before WWDC https://heymusic.ai/music/apple-intel-fEoSb

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Have to say, I was thoroughly impressed by what Apple showed today with all this Personal AI stuff. And it proves that the real power of consumer AI will be in the hands of the platform owners where you have most of your digital life in already (Apple or Google for messaging, mail, photos, apps; Microsoft for work and/or life). The way Siri can now perform actions based on context from emails and messages like settin…

> The way Siri can now perform actions based on context from emails and messages like setting calendar and reservations I can't think of something less exciting than a feature that Gmail has supported for a decade. Overall there's not a single feature in the article that I find exciting (I don't use Siri at all, so maybe it's just me), but I actually see that as a good thing. The least they add GenAI the better.

The difference is that this is on-device and private. Gmail just feeds your emails to Google's servers and they do the crunching. And in the meanwhile train their systems to be better using your content.

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> Apple Intelligence is free for users, and will be available in beta as part of iOS 18, iPadOS 18, and macOS Sequoia this fall in U.S. English. Some features, software platforms, and additional languages will come over the course of the next year. Apple Intelligence will be available on iPhone 15 Pro, iPhone 15 Pro Max, and iPad and Mac with M1 and later, with Siri and device language set to U.S. English. For more i…

English only? That is surprising
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