Apple confirms it's breaking iPhone web apps in the EU on purpose

Post by acdha » Sat, Feb 17, 2024, 2:38 AM UTC

xvector wrote: post #389

johanneskanybal wrote: post #25

As a European dev I want apple to fail super hard and implode. They used to be so cool and make slick hardware for their nische but now I'm happy to use worse hardware as long as they disapear from the face of the earth.

As an American dev I can't wait to see tech companies leave the EU and leave it in shambles as the EU realizes it never learnt how to innovate, only legislate and rent-seek from our companies. Frankly, the region needs us far more than we need it.

Post by xvector » Sat, Feb 17, 2024, 2:54 AM UTC

acdha wrote: post #761

xvector wrote: post #389

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As an American dev I can't wait to see tech companies leave the EU and leave it in shambles as the EU realizes it never learnt how to innovate, only legislate and rent-seek from our companies. Frankly, the region needs us far more than we need it.

That’s true, I would always choose to fly Boeing instead of Airbus. Bosch and Siemens don’t exist, and Mercedes certainly didn’t beat Tesla all-hollow with self-driving technology. These sweeping generalizations are pointless, especially because international finance means a lot of things happen at American companies offices in European countries. Does the fact that you’re using Brotli to view this webpage count for…

Post by paulddraper » Sat, Feb 17, 2024, 3:05 AM UTC

ajross wrote: post #215

robertoandred wrote: post #27

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This IS adhering to the DMA. Every browser engine is treated the same.

Deliberately removing useful features from your own product so that you don't have to let other people implement the same features may be technically conforming to the letter of the law, but is clearly violating it in spirit. The spirit of the law is platform interoperability: your control over the platform shouldn't restrict what other people can make it do (be it "run an app store" or "run a web app").

Post by ajross » Sat, Feb 17, 2024, 3:12 AM UTC

paulddraper wrote: post #765

ajross wrote: post #215

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Deliberately removing useful features from your own product so that you don't have to let other people implement the same features may be technically conforming to the letter of the law, but is clearly violating it in spirit. The spirit of the law is platform interoperability: your control over the platform shouldn't restrict what other people can make it do (be it "run an app store" or "run a web app").

> but is clearly violating it in spirit Huh? If the EU imposes additional requirements on aquarium lights, and a lighting manufacture decides not to product aquarium lights.....that's violating the spirit of the law?

Post by paulddraper » Sat, Feb 17, 2024, 3:19 AM UTC

ajross wrote: post #767

paulddraper wrote: post #765

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> but is clearly violating it in spirit Huh? If the EU imposes additional requirements on aquarium lights, and a lighting manufacture decides not to product aquarium lights.....that's violating the spirit of the law?

That analogy doesn't make sense to me. Apple isn't pulling the iPhone from the market, they're breaking iPhones that were already sold. The equivalent would be if you said you couldn't sell green aquarium lights anymore, and aquarium light vendors turned all the green aquariums off remotely.