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Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Many people have been trying to get the point across that legal, unlimited free speech can put people in harm's way. Elon is happy to say that he's willing to trade harm to those people for his free speech principles, but as soon as his family is the one facing the repercussions, he's happy to change policy and sue.

Doxxing is not free speech. The sensible majority of people understand that. It's only a vocal small minority of idiots and troublemakers that argue otherwise.

So is he going to re-ban Libs Of Tiktok again? Or any of the other conservative accounts which were banned for doxing and he reinstated?

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

#703
https://mastodon.social/@elonjet is the new home. You can follow updates on Jack Sweeney's account https://mastodon.social/@JxckS

It will be interesting to see if republishing public available data does count as aiding in the doxing. I don't think so. His doesn't profit or calls for doxing on the account.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

#704

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Musk has now included a tweet seemingly trying to dox the stalker, including their license plate. How can he immediately turn from "people shouldn't post publicly available information that can be abusable" to posting someone's abusable public information?

Don't know. If someone threatened my little kid I'd probably sh*t on moral doxxing reservations, too.

So you'd be calm enough to institute new anti-doxxing rules in your social media company before deciding to dox the person you think is bothering you? I could understand acting rashly while the emotions are high, but I find it difficult to see this chain of events that way.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

#705

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I don't think that's relevant past the point where Musk is on the record as saying that because he's such a champion of free speech he's not going to ban the account.

No, I think it’s relevant because the banned account was not just “sharing public information”, but actively tracking Musk using a combination of online data and real word surveillance. The fact that Musk previously said he wouldn’t ban the account, then changed his mind (apparently after a personal incident) just shows Musk changed his mind, is all. It certainly demonstrates he didn’t think through his previous deci…

As he originally announced his non-banning as being due to his fundamental principles, it's more than just changing his mind. He should at least clarify how his attitude towards freedom of speech on Twitter has developed. Personally I think he's being disingenuous as he doesn't seem to care about other people's safety following even his own tweets, so although I can understand him putting his own family first, he should now appreciate that his previous stance on absolute free speech is untenable.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

#706

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none whatsoever. the linking is done simply by looking up who the plane is registered to, and that is also public information. you can of course always go the other way, look who owns a plane, and the go to flight information from there. there is nothing private about any of the information used in the process.

> none whatsoever I would ponder the GDPR's definition of personal data before making such definitive claim.

This all plays out in the USA.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

#707

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If something might be harmful to my kids, I would ignore what I said earlier and protect my kids first. It might be, but there isn't a shred of proof that it actually is. Elon is quite literally hiding behind his youngest child in order to get away with something that he simply wanted to do anyway. He painted himself in a corner and this is his way out.

> there isn't a shred of proof There is a video of a stalker that followed him from the airport. That is not enough? Apart from that, I would generally be concerned if there is a twitter that tracks my vehicle in real-time. Wouldn't you be concerned too?

>There is a video of a stalker that followed him from the airport. That is not enough?

There's video of somebody in a car, hardly proof.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

#708

Elon posted some info[0] that gives it some context: "Last night, car carrying lil X in LA was followed by crazy stalker (thinking it was me), who later blocked car from moving & climbed onto hood. Legal action is being taken against Sweeney & organizations who supported harm to my family." Make that what you will. [0]: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603190155107794944

I thought this was about following his private jet, not his car, or did I miss something?

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

#709

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I assume they are referring to the blocklist described here: https://www.faa.gov/pilots/ladd > ADS-B Out transmits flight data directly from the aircraft to internet vendors not participating in the LADD program. Non-participating internet vendors collect and post all ADS-B Out flight data on the internet. To address ADS-B Out privacy concerns, the FAA has initiated the Privacy ICAO Address (PIA) program to improve t…

LADD is only one system, that adsbexchange doesn't use, but PIA still applies to them. Once the ICAO number changes the link the person posted above will no longer point to Elon's jet. You'd have to again have someone in person at the airport to deanonymize the jet. ADSB Exchange can't get around ICAO anonymizing just by looking at the transponder data.

His aircraft is not in the PIA programme. Which renders his complaints somewhat hollow.
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