AI Mistakes Bus-Side Ad for Famous CEO, Charges Her With Jaywalking

Post by [deleted] » Sun, Nov 25, 2018, 10:58 PM UTC

askvictor wrote: post #168

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>I am lucky. I can pay that. It sucks but some people would be out food money if they suddenly had to pay $500 to drive again. Absolutely, court fees and fines disproportionately punish those with low incomes. Increasing enforcement of low level violations by surveillance tech and/or AI is going to crush a lot of people if we don't change that fact. https://www.npr.org/2014/05/19/312158516/increasing-court-fe... http…

Finland, I believe, scales fines proportionally to your income. Not perfect (the rich can more easily hide their income than the not so rich), but a good start.

Post by scottishfiction » Sun, Nov 25, 2018, 10:58 PM UTC

arghwhat wrote: post #243

SquishyPanda23 wrote: post #232

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> punishing productivity and rewarding laziness. I'm unaware of any scientific evidence that wealth is the result of hard work and that poverty is the result of laziness. Can you cite empirical evidence for this claim?

Many seem to interpret what I said as "poverty equals laziness". This was never in any way what I said. However, almost regardless of your situation, harder works gives greater results. You'll get significantly more if you work 14 hours a day instead of 8. Whether you're working a shit job and just trying to push up your work hours, you're trying to build your own company, or even if you're managing your multi-billio…

Post by Retric » Sun, Nov 25, 2018, 10:59 PM UTC

arghwhat wrote: post #230

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It seems ridiculous to me to assume, as you seem to, that rich=hardworking and poor=lazy. Why not rich=lazy, poor=hardworking? That seems to make at least as much sense to me, to correspond to reality. No-one mentioned "changing the magnitude of the crime". The point is, if you get a $1000 fine, that could mean absolutely nothing to a millionaire/billionaire, but a lot to someone with $1000. Yet you talk as if fining…

This only holds for those that a born rich, or fell upon immense luck. For those below Dubai princes, the riches come from an entirely distorted work/life balance where you are never really off-duty, and immense responsibility. I intend to get there one day with hard work so my family can be well off. However, I do not see why it makes sense to punish me for it. Fining me twice as much because I work double the hours…

Post by monadgonad » Sun, Nov 25, 2018, 11:02 PM UTC

arghwhat wrote: post #245

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You're not being punished for that, you're being punished for a crime. That happens to be proportional to what you can give. What's not fair is fines that barely impact wealthy people.

Neither does it seem fair that I'll be fined twice as much if I work twice the hours, does it?

Post by arghwhat » Sun, Nov 25, 2018, 11:05 PM UTC

Retric wrote: post #265

arghwhat wrote: post #230

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This only holds for those that a born rich, or fell upon immense luck. For those below Dubai princes, the riches come from an entirely distorted work/life balance where you are never really off-duty, and immense responsibility. I intend to get there one day with hard work so my family can be well off. However, I do not see why it makes sense to punish me for it. Fining me twice as much because I work double the hours…

So, in your own words being rich does not imply anything about hard work. Further if you actually look at the wealthy hard work has almost zero influence on the odds of being wealthy. Generally because you can pass wealth from person to person after it’s gained and the source is often just lucky. PS: I am in my 30’s and have zero debt and six figure savings. By some standards that’s wealth by others it’s practically…