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AI Mistakes Bus-Side Ad for Famous CEO, Charges Her With Jaywalking

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Re: AI Mistakes Bus-Side Ad for Famous CEO, Charges Her With Jaywalking

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Oh, give it a break. People don't choose to be poor.

I did not say that people chose to be poor. However, it does not seem fair to be punished for working harder than required.

This is assuming wealth/income is cause by hard work; while that's true for some people, many are rich because their parents are rich (would be curious to see stats around this)

Re: AI Mistakes Bus-Side Ad for Famous CEO, Charges Her With Jaywalking

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Yes, but even hidden, it's probably still going to appear quite significant, and I do believe that at some point, the fine size becomes nonsensical. But then again, I do not think that who you are or what you have should change the magnitude of the crime you commit. I don't think it is sensible that I should get greater fines because I chose to bust my ass and suffer from stress to gain more for my family, whereas I…

> punishing productivity and rewarding laziness.

I'm unaware of any scientific evidence that wealth is the result of hard work and that poverty is the result of laziness.

Can you cite empirical evidence for this claim?

Re: AI Mistakes Bus-Side Ad for Famous CEO, Charges Her With Jaywalking

#233

Heres further proof the justice system is screwed. Yesterday I was stopped while driving for not having current tags. Registration was renewed but I didn't have the sticker yet. Cop looked at my paperwork said all good be back in 5. Come to find out, I haven't had a valid license in 5 years. There was a mistake in court 5 years ago when I paid a fine (speeding ticket). I have a receipt from court saying all settled/m…

It’s funny but at the end of the day what youre talking about is the realization of idiocracy through our implementation of shitty “automation” using software. I mean basically you have a computer system where the court system, law enforcement and DMV are all saying your license is expired for failure to pay...when you actually paid. Now you are getting more tickets and basically stuck in an infinite loop of hell. I’…

Isn't human error more likely the cause of the bad records?

Re: AI Mistakes Bus-Side Ad for Famous CEO, Charges Her With Jaywalking

#234

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To my knowledge, jaywalking is legal in Boston, where I live. The pedestrian is presumed to have the right-of-way.

I don't think that's true, it's just a very minimal fine (which I would be completely fine with): https://www.mass.gov/how-to/respond-to-a-jaywalking-ticket

https://boston.cbslocal.com/2010/10/01/jaywalking-in-boston-...

Here's an article from 2010 saying they hadn't given a single ticket in Boston or Cambridge in years. To my knowledge they still don't give out the tickets. I've certainly jaywalked in front of cops in Boston, Cambridge, Somerville, and Quincy without penalty for decades. So even if it's in the state law it's not enforced around Boston.

I lived in the Seattle area for a couple years and that's the only time in my life I ever saw a person penalized for jaywalking and I was shocked to see it. One of the reasons I'm glad to be back in Boston.

Re: AI Mistakes Bus-Side Ad for Famous CEO, Charges Her With Jaywalking

#235

Heres further proof the justice system is screwed. Yesterday I was stopped while driving for not having current tags. Registration was renewed but I didn't have the sticker yet. Cop looked at my paperwork said all good be back in 5. Come to find out, I haven't had a valid license in 5 years. There was a mistake in court 5 years ago when I paid a fine (speeding ticket). I have a receipt from court saying all settled/m…

It’s funny but at the end of the day what youre talking about is the realization of idiocracy through our implementation of shitty “automation” using software. I mean basically you have a computer system where the court system, law enforcement and DMV are all saying your license is expired for failure to pay...when you actually paid. Now you are getting more tickets and basically stuck in an infinite loop of hell. I’…

I would never think of banking with BOA after all their shenanigans during the financial crises. A couple years ago I moved all my accounts from another major bank (one that rhymes with 'shittybank') to an online-only bank to avoid just this kind of nonsense. I miss a few conveniences but haven't had any cause to regret it.

Re: AI Mistakes Bus-Side Ad for Famous CEO, Charges Her With Jaywalking

#236

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I did not say that people chose to be poor. However, it does not seem fair to be punished for working harder than required.

This is assuming wealth/income is cause by hard work; while that's true for some people, many are rich because their parents are rich (would be curious to see stats around this)

I cannot say much about the stats, but I only really know of rich-by-work rather than rich-by-luck.

But I do not think we should design a system to cater for outliers with immense wealth. We should cater for the general population, and I believe that for non-Dubai prince wealth, it is likely that it likely came through work.

Re: AI Mistakes Bus-Side Ad for Famous CEO, Charges Her With Jaywalking

#237

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh, give it a break. People don't choose to be poor.

I did not say that people chose to be poor. However, it does not seem fair to be punished for working harder than required.

You're not being punished for that, you're being punished for a crime. That happens to be proportional to what you can give. What's not fair is fines that barely impact wealthy people.

Re: AI Mistakes Bus-Side Ad for Famous CEO, Charges Her With Jaywalking

#238

Yes, but even hidden, it's probably still going to appear quite significant, and I do believe that at some point, the fine size becomes nonsensical. But then again, I do not think that who you are or what you have should change the magnitude of the crime you commit. I don't think it is sensible that I should get greater fines because I chose to bust my ass and suffer from stress to gain more for my family, whereas I…

Just working hard does not entail success implying that it does is untrue.

Re: AI Mistakes Bus-Side Ad for Famous CEO, Charges Her With Jaywalking

#239

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Oh, give it a break. People don't choose to be poor.

I did not say that people chose to be poor. However, it does not seem fair to be punished for working harder than required.

I don’t think there is proof that a there is a connection between the salary level and how hard someone works.

A person who works at minimum wage may work as hard as anyone else. Just look at all those who have to work two jobs to feed their family. I would think that if they had the opportunity to work harder at a single job and make more money, they would.

Re: AI Mistakes Bus-Side Ad for Famous CEO, Charges Her With Jaywalking

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Fines should be some percentage of income. Here in Finland the record speeding ticked is over 100,000 euros. One guy in Switzerland received $1 million speeding ticket for driving his Mercedes SLS AMG over 280 km/h. That's how hit should be.

Scaling fines up to higher incomes for things that don't really matter (jaywalking, minor traffic violations) seems antithetical to the individualistic core of American culture. We typically try to equalize society by raising the floor for the many, rather than lowering the ceiling for the few.

Depends what you think the fines are for. If they are to discourage behaviour, it makes sense to me to try to make them equally discouraging to everyone, which requires scaling.
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