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Re: Reddit is banning any Aimee Challenor mention. UK public figure and Reddit admin

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Post by dencodev »

ping_pong wrote: post #76
eplanit wrote: post #11

Not dystopian sounding at all: Please do not name this individual, at all. Doing so may result in your account being banned by the admins. Please do not ask further questions about this, as doing so may result in your account being banned by the admins. Please do not discuss this incident on Reddit publicly or privately (e.g. on private subreddits and/or in private messages, chat etc.), as doing so may result in your…

Aimee Challenor is apparently a Reddit employee. This is why Reddit is banning her mention. Seems extremely sus to me and why we can't rely on private companies to protect things like free speech and equal access to information.

It's almost like the people who thought of the first amendment didn't see 99% of speech going through private companies at some point in the future. My snark isn't pointed at you, just at the people whose talking point is "first amendment is about the government!"

Re: Reddit is banning any Aimee Challenor mention. UK public figure and Reddit admin

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Post by dencodev »

9387367 wrote: post #228
phpnode wrote: post #22

HN is also penalising threads that discuss this. This post has 74 upvotes in 27 minutes and 11 comments at time of writing. Ordinarily it would significantly outrank most of the other posts on the front page, but it doesn't seem to be able to break past #15. Either this is because HN users are flagging it, or because something else is going on. As Reddit is a YC company it'd be really nice to hear an explanation. Thi…

This thread has more votes (454 points) than any on the front page apart from number 1 (540 points) with more comments, 205 vs 118 from the top post. As of now, it seats on the second page at #44.

It's currently flagged and not visible at all

Re: Reddit is banning any Aimee Challenor mention. UK public figure and Reddit admin

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Post by hfktk4nrn »

jader201 wrote: post #278
phpnode wrote: post #22

HN is also penalising threads that discuss this. This post has 74 upvotes in 27 minutes and 11 comments at time of writing. Ordinarily it would significantly outrank most of the other posts on the front page, but it doesn't seem to be able to break past #15. Either this is because HN users are flagging it, or because something else is going on. As Reddit is a YC company it'd be really nice to hear an explanation. Thi…

Oh wow, and now it’s flagged. If there are Reddit employees on HN that, for example, would cause threads like this to get buried, that should be looked into.

What do you think is the probability of dang not being aware of this third post today on this issue?

He certainly can unflag it and lock it that way if he wished.

Re: Reddit is banning any Aimee Challenor mention. UK public figure and Reddit admin

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Post by Taurenking »

howinteresting wrote: post #218
slibhb wrote: post #184

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This is a contradiction in terms. Supporting trans people means believing that transition is not some sort of "regrettable outcome". No one is saying transition is a "regrettable outcome". What people are saying is that some people may think they are trans and then change their minds later. In these cases a watchful-waiting approach is better because it may allow the person to avoid life-altering decisions like sur…

> No one is saying transition is a "regrettable outcome". Actually a lot of people say that, cf rhetoric about "a lifetime of hormones and surgery". As someone who has had surgeries and expects to be on hormones for the rest of their life, I think what I did to my body was good, not bad.

dilate

Re: Reddit is banning any Aimee Challenor mention. UK public figure and Reddit admin

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Post by mellosouls »

9387367 wrote: post #240
mellosouls wrote: post #23

As much as I resent the control-weenies flagging stuff they disagree with, I don't like the title editorialising here which could be read as an attempt to shame and punish rather than discuss. Please can we merge with the original threads and consider keeping the source titles. Another example here with a clear and explanatory title: https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/mb1vpb/rukp...

I posted this and I disagree, a drama subreddit is the least place this should be discussed, this is about silencing Redditors and abuse from admins who are paid Reddit staff. As per title change, please see my comment at the time of posting.

I saw your comment before posting and see no need for the editorialising for the reason given.

The link I've given also explains what's going on, yours does not (and the sub disappeared previously), people have to trust your interpretation in the title.

Re: Reddit is banning any Aimee Challenor mention. UK public figure and Reddit admin

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Post by Taurenking »

stickfigure wrote: post #262

The ELI5 context for those (like me) that were very confused: Aimee Challenor is a trans (MTF) woman who was very active in UK green party politics. She appointed her father as an official in her election campaign after he had been arrested for rape and torture of a 10yo girl. For which he would subsequently be convicted and sentenced to 22 years. Adding additional color to the narrative: Aimee Challenor is very acti…

Go figure, what a nice person

Re: Reddit is banning any Aimee Challenor mention. UK public figure and Reddit admin

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Post by zozbot234 »

Karawebnetwork wrote: post #258
Symbiote wrote: post #137

I think the unwelcome article is probably this one, since it is easily found with a Google search suggestion: "Aimee Challenor G[raham Linehan]". NB the final picture is Challenor dressed as an infant (dress + teddy bear). Most other images are cartoon drawings from fetish/furry sites. https://grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/ashton-challenor-the-bo... (I'm posting this link as it seems important to the discussion. I'll…

There's a lot going on in this article. The introduction alone provides everything you need to know about the tone used throughout the text. Instead of listing everything, I prefer to refer to this piece that provides helpful references on how to cover stories about transgender people while remaining neutral on the subject: https://www.glaad.org/reference/covering-trans-community . You will quickly notice that the te…

"Media reference guides" are not absolute in any sense, however. They're simply another sort of social advocacy.

Re: Reddit is banning any Aimee Challenor mention. UK public figure and Reddit admin

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Post by km3r »

howinteresting wrote: post #132
km3r wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Too many times ration discussion critical on parts of the trans rights movement is heavily downvoted or banned. The people who otherwise support trans people, but think 'affirmation-only' approaches are the wrong way to go, are forced to forums/subs filled with people who are unapologetically transphobic. The discussion there will often lead the moderate opinions to radicalization. Of course parts of gay culture can…

> The people who otherwise support trans people, but think 'affirmation-only' approaches are the wrong way to go This is a contradiction in terms. Supporting trans people means believing that transition is not some sort of "regrettable outcome". > are forced to forums/subs filled with people who are unapologetically transphobic. The discussion there will often lead the moderate opinions to radicalization. You are the…

Not trying to really debate the specifics, just point out there is room for debate in good faith.

> You are the company you keep

Sure, but if someone who is trying to be critical in good faith finds themselves kicked out of every other community, what can you expect? Their unanswered questions will need somewhere to find an answer. Sure the individual has some responsibility, but you just made the path to radicalization much easier for them to stumble upon.

Re: Reddit is banning any Aimee Challenor mention. UK public figure and Reddit admin

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Post by dencodev »

debacle wrote: post #24

My interaction with reddit is now nearly zero. I turned on ad block some time ago. I will visit /r/todayilearned in the early morning while laying in bed, and I will use subreddits to research purchases. It is much more satisfying to remove /r/all from the reddit equation. I can't even visit my local subreddit anymore because the amount of censorship by moderators is staggering. The dark marketing, once you can see i…

Seattle subreddit is unbelievably awful and it's not just the mods, it's virtually every person participating.

Re: Reddit is banning any Aimee Challenor mention. UK public figure and Reddit admin

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Post by minusSeven »

ping_pong wrote: post #76
eplanit wrote: post #11

Not dystopian sounding at all: Please do not name this individual, at all. Doing so may result in your account being banned by the admins. Please do not ask further questions about this, as doing so may result in your account being banned by the admins. Please do not discuss this incident on Reddit publicly or privately (e.g. on private subreddits and/or in private messages, chat etc.), as doing so may result in your…

Aimee Challenor is apparently a Reddit employee. This is why Reddit is banning her mention. Seems extremely sus to me and why we can't rely on private companies to protect things like free speech and equal access to information.

I guess they don't understand streisand effect. If you explicitly ban people will follow that rule but what happens when people get around by using some made up name different from original. Are admins going to read every comment on the platform to uphold this rule?
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