Previous discussion on this https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26554697 has been flagged.
It sounds like the flagging was done by users, not HN admin...so that’s good: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26558198
Reddit is banning any Aimee Challenor mention. UK public figure and Reddit admin
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Re: Reddit is banning any Aimee Challenor mention. UK public figure and Reddit admin
#252Earlier quoted context omitted.
For my own edification, is "political lesbian" a single term? Is there a special definition there? Thanks.
There was/is a subset of radical feminism that saw heterosexuality as something that perpetuated patriarchal oppression [1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_feminism#Radical_lesbi...
Thank you for the link.
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#253Earlier quoted context omitted.
No. Don’t claim to speak for lesbians when there are actual lesbians here. (Hi! You don’t know what you’re talking about.) This is the propaganda bigoted lesbians spread in order to cast themselves as the victims. This is a classic abuser tactic. Nobody is forced or compelled to be attracted to anyone, and nobody believes that should be the case. If you make blanket statements like “I’m not attracted to people of X g…
> If you make blanket statements like “I’m not attracted to people of X group,” you likely have some unexamined prejudice Does that also apply when the group is men/women (as opposed to AMAB/AFAB folks which would be the 'gender critical' view)? Should we all be pansexual?
So these are typically not conversations that queer people have outside of queer circles, because people like you cannot be trusted to engage in good faith or in a way that respects us as people, and your attempt to rules lawyer the complexities of human attraction and identity as though it’s some fun intellectual exercise for you (when for us it is often life or death) is evidence of why.
Anyway, it is incredibly disingenuous to imply that there is an equivalence between sexual orientation and the loud proclamation that one could never date anyone trans given that it is often impossible to physically distinguish between cis and trans people after medical transition. Those people don’t have a problem with their orientation, they have a problem with trans people.
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#254AFAICT, this is a synopsis along with article link:
https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/mbbb56/aimee_challe...
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/aimee-challenor-and-the-...
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#255Earlier quoted context omitted.
The words themselves are modern inventions, reflecting the western medicalization of the concepts, which in turn reflected bigotry — declaring something an “illness” is a great way to get people on board with eradicating it. But gay people and gay relationships existed in pretty much every society for which we have records, long before the British decided to coin a new word. (And in fact, so did trans people.) A rose…
> reflected bigotry — declaring something an “illness” is a great way to get people on board with eradicating it It's quite true that homosexuality used to be viewed like that. And yet, strange as it might seem, even that was a significant step forward from earlier perceptions of MSM which essentially were reminiscent of the Graeco-Roman model. Obviously these perceptions were also colored by bigotry, but we can see…
Again, you have no idea what you’re talking about. You keep referencing talking points from ahistorical views of two societies as though they represent the entire world. I suppose to you, they do? You might be better served by reading about the world at large. Off the top of my head, Japan provides an interesting case study in views of homosexuality (and bisexuality) pre- and post- western influence.
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#256Earlier quoted context omitted.
This thread has more votes (454 points) than any on the front page apart from number 1 (540 points) with more comments, 205 vs 118 from the top post. As of now, it seats on the second page at #44.
Now at #93.
Perhaps HN should look into the weight of flagging, judging by #votes, seems like their ranking is not working or perhaps it is and they are happy this is not the top post.
Quite ironical, regardless as Reddit is a YC startup, none the less Paul Graham is the ideator and the post is about paid Reddit staff silencing users.
Edit: Now at 114 on the 4th page...
Re: Reddit is banning any Aimee Challenor mention. UK public figure and Reddit admin
#257Not dystopian sounding at all: Please do not name this individual, at all. Doing so may result in your account being banned by the admins. Please do not ask further questions about this, as doing so may result in your account being banned by the admins. Please do not discuss this incident on Reddit publicly or privately (e.g. on private subreddits and/or in private messages, chat etc.), as doing so may result in your…
r/europe removed all of the comments on a related thread supposedly to protect people from getting baited into losing their accounts:
https://old.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/mbbb56/aimee_challe...
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#258I think the unwelcome article is probably this one, since it is easily found with a Google search suggestion: "Aimee Challenor G[raham Linehan]". NB the final picture is Challenor dressed as an infant (dress + teddy bear). Most other images are cartoon drawings from fetish/furry sites. https://grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/ashton-challenor-the-bo... (I'm posting this link as it seems important to the discussion. I'll…
There's a lot going on in this article. The introduction alone provides everything you need to know about the tone used throughout the text.
Instead of listing everything, I prefer to refer to this piece that provides helpful references on how to cover stories about transgender people while remaining neutral on the subject: https://www.glaad.org/reference/covering-trans-community.
You will quickly notice that the text goes out of its way to deliberately break GLAAD's Media Reference Guide and others like it.
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#259Earlier quoted context omitted.
> If you make blanket statements like “I’m not attracted to people of X group,” you likely have some unexamined prejudice Does that also apply when the group is men/women (as opposed to AMAB/AFAB folks which would be the 'gender critical' view)? Should we all be pansexual?
So these are typically not conversations that queer people have outside of queer circles, because people like you cannot be trusted to engage in good faith or in a way that respects us as people, and your attempt to rules lawyer the complexities of human attraction and identity as though it’s some fun intellectual exercise for you (when for us it is often life or death) is evidence of why. Anyway, it is incredibly di…
What about lesbians who are concerned that some AMAB folks in their community might simply objectify them sexually, in a way that others would be a lot less likely to? Doesn't that seem like a good reason to be a bit warier when interacting with some group of people?
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#260This is for /r/ukpolitics only?
No, it's being patchily enforced sitewide.