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Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by magicarp »

tlrobinson wrote: post #159
markbao wrote: post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a vim user, I feel as if the essence of vim is an extension of my mind . Much like riding a bicycle, I instinctively think "select this line and the four lines below it and copy it" as "V4jy" with little cognitive thought. Kind of cool from a cognitive science standpoint.

Do you think it's possible some people just aren't wired like this? Or am I just not trying hard enough? I've tried to pick up Vim several times and never made it very far. But at least I know "i" and ":wq" now :)

I was in your position for about a year until bit the bullet and uninstalled Sublime Text from my machine forced myself to use vim exclusively. It was an arduous and painful 2 weeks, but it got better and paid off in the long run.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by noahc »

robinduckett wrote: post #64
noahc wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Being underpaid isn't a function of being in a particular region (assuming your in America). Middle America Jr. Devs with little/no programming experience are getting started around $70K.

I'm in the UK, I've been working for about seven years, I'm on about that in Bristol (and have to commute for an hour to get here.) I must just not be as good as a Junior in middle america.

Pay != quality.

As another person mentioned, being in the UK you face different challenges. My reply was partially to help you, but also to let other American programers know that there are better options out there.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by dman »

CodeMage wrote: post #146
wmt wrote: post #136

Poor documentation, closed source and an unresponsive developer? Sorry, while the editor has several really nice features, I'm not willing to risk commitment to such a floosy editor.

While on the first glance your comment might seem to be an unfair, snarky dismissal, it's actually a pretty accurate summary of what's making me stay with beta versions instead of buying it. Here's a bug that's been driving me crazy: http://www.sublimetext.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=8889 I can edit the theme file, but it's hit-and-miss guessing game that hasn't yielded any results. I also couldn't find any compreh…

That is the bug that sent me back to Emacs too! On a high dpi display the tab fonts are too small and attempting to change the font size just results in this clipping behavior.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by coldtea »

ggreer wrote: post #50

I use Sublime Text every day. I love it. I paid for it. I even develop plugins for it.[1] But I don't recommend it to peers. Why? Because Sublime Text has a low bus factor.[2] 6 years ago, I bought TextMate. Like Sublime Text, I enjoyed using it. Sadly, TextMate became abandonware. The sole developer suffered burnout. Bugs were never fixed. Promised features never showed up. Users wanted to fix these issues themselve…

>I use Sublime Text every day. I love it. I paid for it. I even develop plugins for it.[1] But I don't recommend it to peers. Why? Because Sublime Text has a low bus factor.

Life has a "low bus factor".

This bus might hit YOU, after all.

Enjoy what you can, while you can. Who cares if you have to move to something else in 5 years?

Do you feel like the years you used TextMate were wasted? Haven't you wrote stuff with it?

I've seen tons of promising OSS projects becoming abandon-ware when a few core developers left -- or taking a turn and getting rewritten in a way I couldn't stand.

Case in point, TextMate becoming Open Source (isn't that the case, IIRC?) didn't really help it overcome obsoleteness. It got some new builds, and a few guys tinkering, but nothing worthy to use as a 2013 editor.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by coldtea »

maxhowell wrote: post #116
zeckalpha wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On the other hand, TextMate 2 is under active development: https://github.com/textmate/textmate/commits/master

And it's fabulous, I switched from Sublime Text 2 last week and have no interest in Sublime Text 3 anymore. I was disturbed that Sublime Text 2 had several irritating bugs that I encountered most days and yet all dev was going into the next version that would require a new license. Also I am a sucker for OS X native feel and ST2 clearly had effort put in there, but still fell short.

>And it's fabulous

What exactly is "fabulous" about it? It's mostly a rehash of 1.5 with some random stuff thrown in. For a 5 year wait, I'd expect a lot more.

It's not even close to ST2, much less 3.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by dsego »

frou_dh wrote: post #168
dsego wrote: post #158

How come on OS X the theme colors are considerably darker in sublime than textmate? Something to do with gamma settings or color profiles? For me solarized dark is almost unusable in st, in textmate it is not as dim (solarized light in st has inverted selection, which annoys the hell out of me).

Check whether the theme definitions actually contain the same colour values. There are a lot of unversioned XML files floating around the TM/ST universe.

These are the default ones found in st.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by coldtea »

Narretz wrote: post #30

Going public with the Beta doesn't bode well for the numerous small bugs and inconsistencies that have plagues sublime for longer than the closed Beta. Some also have been introduced with new features, but still remain unaddressed. It also probably means no new plugin Api functions and features, although many have been requested for a long time. I guess since ST is such a well-rounded product overall that these short…

I see new API stuff added all the time in the ST3 alpha update notes.

Plus: what are those "small bugs and inconsistencies"? I've been using ST2 for a year, and ST3 since it was publicly available an an alpha, and can't remember anything other than totally insignificant issues.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by laurencerowe »

Silhouette wrote: post #79
robinduckett wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm in the UK, I've been working for about seven years, I'm on about that in Bristol (and have to commute for an hour to get here.) I must just not be as good as a Junior in middle america.

Software developers in the US tend to be paid much more than anywhere else in the world, and often don't realise this. In the UK, a salaried senior software developer would typically make £45-60K before tax (currently around $70-90K US). Working for someone else as an employee, you'd expect to reach that level after maybe 5-8 years, but then stick there for the rest of your career. Obviously the rates can be higher w…

There has been a 25% fall in the GBPUSD exchange rate over the past few years which needs to be factored in when comparing salaries. The Bay Area can make London seem an affordable place to live.

But that being said, there is still a significant difference in wages for salaried positions. Contracting rates seems much more similar. And the tax treatment for contractors in the UK is so favourable as to make it more worthwhile than all but the very highest salaried developer roles in the City.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by carterschonwald »

jskinner wrote: post #66
ggreer wrote: post #50

I use Sublime Text every day. I love it. I paid for it. I even develop plugins for it.[1] But I don't recommend it to peers. Why? Because Sublime Text has a low bus factor.[2] 6 years ago, I bought TextMate. Like Sublime Text, I enjoyed using it. Sadly, TextMate became abandonware. The sole developer suffered burnout. Bugs were never fixed. Promised features never showed up. Users wanted to fix these issues themselve…

Since February this year, Sublime HQ has been a 3 person company.

That's great to hear! Congrats on that!

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by mmcdan »

aantix wrote: post #151

I've been using ST3 for Ruby/Rails development. I was particularly interested in the "go to definition" functionality. I am a regular user of RubyMine and while code inspection is it's strong suit, the editor never felt responsive. Hence the ST3 trial. The method jumping functionality is very good. Not on par with RubyMine; e.g you can't jump to an ActiveRecord method or any other 3rd party gem. But for navigating yo…

You can search through any files that are in your project workspace. When you start a project, just "Add Folder to Project" and include the ruby gems directory and the ActiveRecord source directory.
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