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Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by nnq »

unicornporn wrote: post #13

First "Core feature" for version 3: Speed. I can't recall that I have ever felt that a text editor was "slow".

Try ST2 with a ton of plugins on an underpowered netbook one day ;) ...it wasn't "slow" like a big fat IDE can get, when you end up typing faster then text can show up on the screen, but it can still get "slow for an editor", like ">1s startup time", ">200ms to open a new tab" (yes, it's noticeable damn it, anything above 10ms if fking noticeable!) if some plugin tries to lint or spell check in the bg, etc.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by levosmetalo »

unicornporn wrote: post #13

First "Core feature" for version 3: Speed. I can't recall that I have ever felt that a text editor was "slow".

Well, for example opening a "small" 20MB SQL file could lock my ST2 for minutes on my slow 8 core i7 with 8GB RAM. For comparizon, Vim and Emacs could open 500MB SQL file in the same amount of time. And I'm not talking about saving, just opening.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by Narretz »

richbradshaw wrote: post #10
jeremyaarts wrote: post #5

I have been using version 3 for a couple months now and I must say, this thing is fast. Starts in less than half a second and the 'Goto Symbol in Project' is an amazing new feature which I now use frequently. Window layout management has also been greatly improved. For me, at the moment this is the best code editor out there. edit: typo

How does Goto Symbol work? Just tried it in a large PHP/JS/CSS type project but couldn't really work out what it does?

It indexes classes and methods (symbols)in your project folders based on the syntax definition of the language in the file. You can then look up and search all symbols in your project, or Go to a symbol where your cursor is. It isn't "smart", so it doesn't know where you use which symbol, or which symbol is assigned to a variable. I haven't used it for mixed projects yet, so I can't say how it works there.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by bornhuetter »

glimcat wrote: post #7
blinkingled wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep. Still debating if the $70 price is right.

It's a developer tool. I bill more than that per hour. Lots of people bill more than that per hour. If it saves you time or stress, it's easily worth $70.

If you are a developer billing that much per hour, then it is undoubtedly worth it. For hobbyist programmers and people just getting started, however, it's a bit more uncertain. It's the age old question of how to price a product that is of great value to professionals, but also useful for novices (think Photoshop and Excel). I think that ST2's approach of being hassleware that doesn't go overboard is a good system.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by sbuk »

mtkd wrote: post #12

No discount for 2 users?

from http://www.sublimetext.com/blog/articles/sublime-text-3-beta

"When 3.0 is released, upgrades will be available for $30, or $15 for users who have purchased recently. The cut off date for the reduced upgrade price will be based on the actual date of the 3.0 release."

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by atondwal »

robin_reala wrote: post #8
w1ntermute wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I still can't find a good reason to switch from Vim.

Well, for me the lack of multiple cursors as an app-level feature is my big pet hate with VIM.

You don't really need multiple cursors in vim. Visual mode is much more powerful than dropping a bunch of cursors at the right places in lines or blocks of text, and if that's not enough, :s commands handle pretty much every usecase. If you're _still_ unsatisfied and want some corner case that's best satisfied by multiple cursors, then you can use the plugin. I installed it thinking it might be useful, but I still haven't found a use case where I prefer multiple cursors to visual mode or ex commands.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by davidw »

glimcat wrote: post #7
blinkingled wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep. Still debating if the $70 price is right.

It's a developer tool. I bill more than that per hour. Lots of people bill more than that per hour. If it saves you time or stress, it's easily worth $70.

The potential problem is not so much the price, which is as you say very reasonable, but getting locked into a proprietary product that you are then attached to. What if they stop developing it? What if they take it in a direction you don't want? What if they move to a higher and higher price? All things to consider.

As for me, you can pry my Emacs from my cold, dead fingers.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by Narretz »

Going public with the Beta doesn't bode well for the numerous small bugs and inconsistencies that have plagues sublime for longer than the closed Beta. Some also have been introduced with new features, but still remain unaddressed. It also probably means no new plugin Api functions and features, although many have been requested for a long time. I guess since ST is such a well-rounded product overall that these shortcomings really grind my gears.
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