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Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by Raphmedia »

robinduckett wrote: post #41
melling wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I bought it even though emacs is still my primary editor. $70 is a drop in the bucket. I keep all of my notes open in a couple different screens (grouped by project). It's really quick to navigate to buffers (Cmd-t) and search all buffers. I'm finally learning a little Python because that's how plugins are written. Sublime has pretty smart completion too. Anyone have an org mode? I'd at least like to make urls clicka…

The biggest bug for me is that it's $70 - Although I'm a professional developer, I'm still fairly underpaid (I don't live in London, San Fran, NY, etc.) and thus it's out of my price range when I can barely afford travel, rent and food.

Can't the company you work for buy you a license?

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by nicholassmith »

davidw wrote: post #29
glimcat wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a developer tool. I bill more than that per hour. Lots of people bill more than that per hour. If it saves you time or stress, it's easily worth $70.

The potential problem is not so much the price, which is as you say very reasonable, but getting locked into a proprietary product that you are then attached to. What if they stop developing it? What if they take it in a direction you don't want? What if they move to a higher and higher price? All things to consider. As for me, you can pry my Emacs from my cold, dead fingers.

The answer to all of the above is: 'Don't upgrade'. As it stands ST is an excellent editor with a rich plugin system around it, even if the dev decides to call it a day it's unlikely it's going to stop working in the next 2-5 years, and additional features can be introduced via the plugin system.

I do understand the concern though, but for a lot of people (myself included) ST is a better solution than a non-proprietary solution.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by noahc »

robinduckett wrote: post #41
melling wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I bought it even though emacs is still my primary editor. $70 is a drop in the bucket. I keep all of my notes open in a couple different screens (grouped by project). It's really quick to navigate to buffers (Cmd-t) and search all buffers. I'm finally learning a little Python because that's how plugins are written. Sublime has pretty smart completion too. Anyone have an org mode? I'd at least like to make urls clicka…

The biggest bug for me is that it's $70 - Although I'm a professional developer, I'm still fairly underpaid (I don't live in London, San Fran, NY, etc.) and thus it's out of my price range when I can barely afford travel, rent and food.

Being underpaid isn't a function of being in a particular region (assuming your in America). Middle America Jr. Devs with little/no programming experience are getting started around $70K.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by jhawk28 »

ggreer wrote: post #50

I use Sublime Text every day. I love it. I paid for it. I even develop plugins for it.[1] But I don't recommend it to peers. Why? Because Sublime Text has a low bus factor.[2] 6 years ago, I bought TextMate. Like Sublime Text, I enjoyed using it. Sadly, TextMate became abandonware. The sole developer suffered burnout. Bugs were never fixed. Promised features never showed up. Users wanted to fix these issues themselve…

Sublime was able to change it from a "buy once, always use" to paid upgrades. This makes it a more sustainable business model. This is something that TextMate never had.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by jeremyaarts »

richbradshaw wrote: post #10
jeremyaarts wrote: post #5

I have been using version 3 for a couple months now and I must say, this thing is fast. Starts in less than half a second and the 'Goto Symbol in Project' is an amazing new feature which I now use frequently. Window layout management has also been greatly improved. For me, at the moment this is the best code editor out there. edit: typo

How does Goto Symbol work? Just tried it in a large PHP/JS/CSS type project but couldn't really work out what it does?

When you press Ctrl+Shift+R (Windows), it opens a panel similar to Goto Anything. You can then type the function, class or whatever and it will bring you right to it.

Also, when your cursor is on a word, and you press F12, it will bring you to the definition of the class or function. This also works with CSS classes and ID's from your HTML.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by tokenizerrr »

ggreer wrote: post #50

I use Sublime Text every day. I love it. I paid for it. I even develop plugins for it.[1] But I don't recommend it to peers. Why? Because Sublime Text has a low bus factor.[2] 6 years ago, I bought TextMate. Like Sublime Text, I enjoyed using it. Sadly, TextMate became abandonware. The sole developer suffered burnout. Bugs were never fixed. Promised features never showed up. Users wanted to fix these issues themselve…

> A high bus factor means that many developers would need to be removed before the project would necessarily fail.

Don't you mean a low bus factor?

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by robinduckett »

Kurtz79 wrote: post #48
robinduckett wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The biggest bug for me is that it's $70 - Although I'm a professional developer, I'm still fairly underpaid (I don't live in London, San Fran, NY, etc.) and thus it's out of my price range when I can barely afford travel, rent and food.

I use vim and reasonably happy with it, but honestly 70$ is little more than a new console game, or a dinner for two in a decent restaurant... we are not really talking about a license for Photoshop or professional CAD software. If you are a professional developer living in a reasonably modern country and cannot afford 70$ for what is supposed to be to be your primary tool, then you are not underpaid, you are being s…

I bought a license for TM years ago, and currently use TM2. This would be a "nice to have", rather than a must have. I should probably save up and take my girlfriend out soon. Thanks for reminding me.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by ggreer »

tokenizerrr wrote: post #57
ggreer wrote: post #50

I use Sublime Text every day. I love it. I paid for it. I even develop plugins for it.[1] But I don't recommend it to peers. Why? Because Sublime Text has a low bus factor.[2] 6 years ago, I bought TextMate. Like Sublime Text, I enjoyed using it. Sadly, TextMate became abandonware. The sole developer suffered burnout. Bugs were never fixed. Promised features never showed up. Users wanted to fix these issues themselve…

> A high bus factor means that many developers would need to be removed before the project would necessarily fail. Don't you mean a low bus factor?

Yep, and fixed. Thanks.
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