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Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by aantix » Fri, Jun 28, 2013, 5:04 PM UTC

I've been using ST3 for Ruby/Rails development. I was particularly interested in the "go to definition" functionality. I am a regular user of RubyMine and while code inspection is it's strong suit, the editor never felt responsive. Hence the ST3 trial.

The method jumping functionality is very good. Not on par with RubyMine; e.g you can't jump to an ActiveRecord method or any other 3rd party gem. But for navigating your code base, it reliably finds method definitions across the whole project and find them quickly.

It's not on par with RubyMine, but it's still a solid addition.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by laacz » Fri, Jun 28, 2013, 5:05 PM UTC

First thing I tried out was - does it close . Yes, it does: "". I'm really happy with lots of sublime text features. But this simple untested completion error stunned me.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by dsego » Fri, Jun 28, 2013, 5:12 PM UTC

capex wrote: post #113

> Build 3047 is the fastest, most stable, most polished version of Sublime Text yet. The sentence loses its meaning because its so often spoken following Apple's marketing speak.

Apple was my first association as well when I read that sentence.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by dokem » Fri, Jun 28, 2013, 5:13 PM UTC

yunong wrote: post #143

I've tried to give sublime a shot many times -- and I really would like to use it. It does have great plugins and features, however the deal breaker has always been that I needed to use the mouse at some point in my workflow. I have to admit that the "vintage" mode doesn't completely emulate vim, which is really a shame.

I'm curious. When do you have to use the mouse?

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by scardine » Fri, Jun 28, 2013, 5:13 PM UTC

ggreer wrote: post #50

I use Sublime Text every day. I love it. I paid for it. I even develop plugins for it.[1] But I don't recommend it to peers. Why? Because Sublime Text has a low bus factor.[2] 6 years ago, I bought TextMate. Like Sublime Text, I enjoyed using it. Sadly, TextMate became abandonware. The sole developer suffered burnout. Bugs were never fixed. Promised features never showed up. Users wanted to fix these issues themselve…

> Developers marry their editors. They spend years learning every aspect of them. They customize their configuration. They install and develop plugins and extensions. If an editor becomes abandonware, the users of that editor have wasted an immense amount of time. All of their knowledge and work surrounding their editor becomes useless. They're forced to start over with something else.

This is like saying you won't marry that beautiful girl because she can die tomorrow and you will not know what to do with her dresses. Isn't more logical to enjoy beautiful girls and pleasant software while they are here?

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by MrGando » Fri, Jun 28, 2013, 5:18 PM UTC

scardine wrote: post #155

ggreer wrote: post #50

I use Sublime Text every day. I love it. I paid for it. I even develop plugins for it.[1] But I don't recommend it to peers. Why? Because Sublime Text has a low bus factor.[2] 6 years ago, I bought TextMate. Like Sublime Text, I enjoyed using it. Sadly, TextMate became abandonware. The sole developer suffered burnout. Bugs were never fixed. Promised features never showed up. Users wanted to fix these issues themselve…

> Developers marry their editors. They spend years learning every aspect of them. They customize their configuration. They install and develop plugins and extensions. If an editor becomes abandonware, the users of that editor have wasted an immense amount of time. All of their knowledge and work surrounding their editor becomes useless. They're forced to start over with something else. This is like saying you won't m…

> This is like saying you won't marry that beautiful girl because she can die tomorrow and you will not know what to do with her dresses. Isn't more logical to enjoy beautiful girls and pleasant software while they are here?

Yeah, because it's fair to make an analogy between a Girl and a Text Editor. A text editor is a tool, I want the hammer to be there for me tomorrow, you can't assure that with a closed source editor (After Text Mate I swore I wasn't going to make the same mistake again, ever.)

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by liminal » Fri, Jun 28, 2013, 5:18 PM UTC

Glad for the speed improvements but the UI seems to be getting worse. For example, the minimap now only shows your viewport view on hover making it mostly useless as an orientation tool. I emailed the developer about this issue many weeks ago and never received a reply, so I have no idea if he also views this as a problem (not encouraging).

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by dsego » Fri, Jun 28, 2013, 5:29 PM UTC

How come on OS X the theme colors are considerably darker in sublime than textmate? Something to do with gamma settings or color profiles? For me solarized dark is almost unusable in st, in textmate it is not as dim (solarized light in st has inverted selection, which annoys the hell out of me).

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by tlrobinson » Fri, Jun 28, 2013, 5:31 PM UTC

markbao wrote: post #150

pvnick wrote: post #142

I love Sublime Text. For a year or two I tried and tried to get behind vim, to no avail. I thought there must be something wrong with me, perhaps I'm not as smart as those other developers who sit there staring at several adjacent vim windows hitting cryptic key sequences as if the essence of vim were an extension of their mind (maybe it is?). I couldn't do it. Then I made the realization that the editor you use has…

As a vim user, I feel as if the essence of vim is an extension of my mind . Much like riding a bicycle, I instinctively think "select this line and the four lines below it and copy it" as "V4jy" with little cognitive thought. Kind of cool from a cognitive science standpoint.

Do you think it's possible some people just aren't wired like this? Or am I just not trying hard enough?

I've tried to pick up Vim several times and never made it very far. But at least I know "i" and ":wq" now :)

Re: Sublime Text 3 Public Beta

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Post by [deleted] » Fri, Jun 28, 2013, 5:34 PM UTC

markbao wrote: post #150

pvnick wrote: post #142

I love Sublime Text. For a year or two I tried and tried to get behind vim, to no avail. I thought there must be something wrong with me, perhaps I'm not as smart as those other developers who sit there staring at several adjacent vim windows hitting cryptic key sequences as if the essence of vim were an extension of their mind (maybe it is?). I couldn't do it. Then I made the realization that the editor you use has…

As a vim user, I feel as if the essence of vim is an extension of my mind . Much like riding a bicycle, I instinctively think "select this line and the four lines below it and copy it" as "V4jy" with little cognitive thought. Kind of cool from a cognitive science standpoint.

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