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> The Ferrari brand is rather stagnant and not innovative. They need to do something like this to drive more attention and sales. Wild assertion. Ferrari is currently #8 largest market cap for a car manufacturer. They're valued above Mercedes, BMW, Volkswagen and every other Euro car brand. They couldn't be more successful as a small automaker if they tried. But you think they need to do something like this to drive…

the world is shifting to EVs and Ferrari doesn't want to get left behind. It's making a bold statement with this model

What is bold about this cheap design?

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Does Ferrari have the same "relationship requirements" as other high-end manufacturers? I.e. to get the latest and greatest ICE sports case, you'll need to buy one of these first.

Yes. You can't buy their high end models without buying lower end ones first.

Re: Ferrari Luce

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Makes sense from corporate perspective to hire the "Apple Designer" to craft the interior experience, it's fresh input from a very respected UX design-lead of another industry. But handing over responsibility for the exterior is quite questionable IMO. To me, the exterior has lost almost all of Ferrari's identity. It's a nice car-design, but if you'd tell me it's a Hyundai, Lexus or BYD I would believe you. I wonder…

It looks like a Polestar. The performance is certainly what you would expect from Ferrari, but it doesn’t matter. This isn’t a car that should have a Ferrari emblem on it. This will go down as one of the all time automotive blunders. I think Jony Ive is done too. He was responsible for those awful MacBooks that generated a class action lawsuit and now this. It’s hard to come back from two consecutive flops.

> It looks like a Polestar.

I don't agree. Polestar has their own "design language", they do not look the same.

I think that I prefer the look of a Polestar 5 to this Ferrari. Of course, I've never seen either vehicle in person, so what do I really know.

Re: Ferrari Luce

#724

Makes sense from corporate perspective to hire the "Apple Designer" to craft the interior experience, it's fresh input from a very respected UX design-lead of another industry. But handing over responsibility for the exterior is quite questionable IMO. To me, the exterior has lost almost all of Ferrari's identity. It's a nice car-design, but if you'd tell me it's a Hyundai, Lexus or BYD I would believe you. I wonder…

Is this so unusual for Ferrari and do we need to blame it on Jony Ive? Ferrari's been selling an SUV since 2024, after all...

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#725

The commentary seems pretty uninformed. My strong guess is the buyer of the electric Ferrari is not your typical Ferrari buyer. These same people probably criticized the Porsche Cayenne for 'not being fast enough' or 'lacking features that Toyota SUVs have' The target buyer is probably more like Dubai housewife with kids. They have a different aesthetic. They LOVE their iPhone. Everyone hating on it probably needs to…

I could see this being true, except that other high end electrics (Porsche, Audi) have not sold well. So the theory would be:

> people want either $30,000 electric cars (Tesla), $100,000 electric cars (Tesla), or $500,000 electric cars (Ferrari)

I do think Ferrari is trying to expand their audience with the Luce, but not to Dubai housewives. Ferrari's are for Ferrari collectors. There exists the guy with a few already, who daily drives a Tesla. Probably hundreds of those guys! This is for them (IMO).

Re: Ferrari Luce

#726
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This will be a success. There is no need to sell an amount comparable to the Tesla Model S. It's Ferrari's first entry into the premium 5-seat EV sedan market. There are enough people who would pay any money to have an electric Ferrari. The fact that it's a rather everyday car—and not a supercar—makes it a very attractive option for rich people who need to show off. Design is also pretty good for the task. It doesn't…

I guess it will be an iconic car in 10-20 tears, like the F40 is still appraised today.

Maybe it feels an extreme change, but the solution like making batteries core part of the body might pay well. I am looking also for the first track tests, to see if their claims are real

Re: Ferrari Luce

#727

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> To me, the exterior has lost almost all of Ferrari's identity. It's a nice car-design, but if you'd tell me it's a Hyundai, Lexus or BYD I would believe you. I think that is the idea. Ferrari presented a plausible EV exterior, albeit one that will not appeal to Ferrari's target market (and budget). The resulting non-sales could be used to justify the position that Ferrari's target market is not interested in EVs, s…

But justify to who? Ferrari already got their exception from the EU regulation for CO² reduction via the E-Fuel loophole, which was tailored for them and allows them to continue selling V8 and V12 ICE-based cars beyond 2036 if they only use synthetic e-fuels. This secures their existing business model for customers who insist on ICE-based cars and are willing to pay the premium for it. A portion of their addressable…

Wasn't tailored for Ferrari, or at least not for Ferrari alone. Porsche is a much bigger player revenue – 5x the annual revenue.

Re: Ferrari Luce

#728

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the world is shifting to EVs and Ferrari doesn't want to get left behind. It's making a bold statement with this model

What is bold about this cheap design?

It's completely different from the other Ferrari models (much like the Cybertruck for Teslas)

Re: Ferrari Luce

#729

Makes sense from corporate perspective to hire the "Apple Designer" to craft the interior experience, it's fresh input from a very respected UX design-lead of another industry. But handing over responsibility for the exterior is quite questionable IMO. To me, the exterior has lost almost all of Ferrari's identity. It's a nice car-design, but if you'd tell me it's a Hyundai, Lexus or BYD I would believe you. I wonder…

Ferrari has historically worked with outside designers. Pininfarina being probably the most prominent. Bertone, as well. Ferrari brought design in-house relatively recently.

Re: Ferrari Luce

#730
Eew I like the classics F40s but also the Stradale is dope too wtf is this thing

My eew comment is the design of the body

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