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Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance

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Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance

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post #67

Can someone please do some security research on this to see what it sends when it calls home? I'm terrified to install a binary like that

If you want the same thing but not as sketchy you can check out Cursor. You pay them, so it's a little more transparent what they're getting out of it.

Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance

#112

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills, because every time I try to use AI for any of my projects - including the "better" Anthropic and OpenAI models, I get terribly written, buggy code that has nothing to do with the domain or question. Unless I'm feeding it actual softball, single function questions it adds almost no value to my dev cycle. Mind you, all of this terrible code also costs a ton in tokens. It's sad becaus…

If it did everything in one shot always you wouldn't need an IDE for it.

Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance

#113

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills, because every time I try to use AI for any of my projects - including the "better" Anthropic and OpenAI models, I get terribly written, buggy code that has nothing to do with the domain or question. Unless I'm feeding it actual softball, single function questions it adds almost no value to my dev cycle. Mind you, all of this terrible code also costs a ton in tokens. It's sad becaus…

I feel like it's so hot or cold. People have been raving about Loveable "one-shotting" the creation of an app given one prompt. I tried to have it recreate a basic landing page from a screenshot and it wasn't even close. It invented some sections, reproduced others terribly and completely ignored others. I went through numerous prompts until I ran out for the day.

With what I was left with at that point, it probably would have been a wash to fix that code or just start from scratch manually.

I don't blame Loveable, I think it's a wonderful product bordering on magic, like v0 and Bolt.new. I just think they are amazing products that have been over hyped to god-like status.

Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance

#115
post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> but I feel like we aren't allowed to be honest anymore that LLMs aren't going to replace programmers or moderate our expectations. But literally every single programmer I know has this opinion.

Agree, who is not allowing us to be honest? I have found programmers are freely talking about the limitations of AI.

It looks like if the stuff you read online, written by people who need to optimize for various metrics of which objectivity is not among the top ones, shapes the perception of reality

Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance

#116
post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> but I feel like we aren't allowed to be honest anymore that LLMs aren't going to replace programmers or moderate our expectations. But literally every single programmer I know has this opinion.

Agree, who is not allowing us to be honest? I have found programmers are freely talking about the limitations of AI.

This opinion used to be a lot less popular especially on hackernews

Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance

#117
post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> but I feel like we aren't allowed to be honest anymore that LLMs aren't going to replace programmers or moderate our expectations. But literally every single programmer I know has this opinion.

Agree, who is not allowing us to be honest? I have found programmers are freely talking about the limitations of AI.

It’s a matter of incentives and who benefits from a generalized belief that AI will wipe the floor with the whole programmer class.

Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance

#118
My personal experience has been that very basic stuff like converting an object to another shape or creating a simple validation function or things like that has been super effective with AI. I've gotten so lazy that I try and prompt it to exactly what I want instead of even editing a bit.

But the moment it gets a little less basic, its a different story. I absolutely hate the experience. So I love it and I hate it at the same time. Is it going to replace me? I don't feel like its there yet. And this has been the case for a while now.

There is just too much money and people invested in this that its hard to say anything negative about it. Nearly every VC has rebranded their websites around an AI-driven future. And, to be fair, it’s not a fad—it genuinely works well for many things. But for now, I’m still skeptical about how far it can really go.

Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance

#119
There's no way I am using a Chinese IDE with VSCode (w/ Coppilot) and Cursor existing after reading the privacy issues in the court documents with TikTok. Bytedance had some extremely overreaching expectations of data it wanted.

That being said, I am using (Chinese) Deepseek r1 because there isn't currently a free LLM on par with it. I am careful with what I share though, a little more so than with any others that are not locally fun.

Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance

#120
post #7

China is taking every venture-funded AI startup and shitting on them. Almost all of them. Tencent's Hunyuan 3D - Tripo, etc. Tencent's Hunyuan Video - Sora, Runway, Pika, etc. ByteDance's Trae - Cursor, etc. DeepSeek R1 - GPT, etc. Unitree - Figure, Tesla, Boston Dynamics, etc. And a ton of this stuff is completely open source. All of the Tencent stuff is. This destroys the moat of so many companies that have spent h…

How could more competition be bad? Sure some startups' business plans no longer work and have to pivot but many more startups now have access to better products at lower cost.
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