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Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance

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Post by impulser_ »

tnt128 wrote: post #49
impulser_ wrote: post #40

Bro the West is getting cooked by China right now. We might be fucked. Everything that has been coming out of China is better than anything our mega trillion dollar corporation are producing and they are doing with with sanctions on the best GPUs. I don't work in big tech, why are they so bad with sigifically more money and more advanced technology? Google had a decade and a half head start and they can't even produc…

Haven’t tried Trae. Is it objectively better than cursor? I felt this statement might be premature. US is still leading in software and AI space.

The chat UX is definitely better than Cursor. It less janky and I like that it wait until generation is done before asking you if you want to apply the suggested the changes instead of loading them into your file right after like cursor does. Also you can apply at cursor which is nice for snippets.

The Builder tool is probably the best feature of Trae. It builds React UIs better than any tool even v0 which is built for building React UIs. It very good at recreating UI from image even better than using the model directly which I'm not too sure how...

Code completion is probably closer to copilot than cursor so it depends on how hardcore you like your AI code completion. So Cursor might be better especially for repetitive refactoring.

The overall design and feel of Trae is better the VS Code and Cursor, but I'm a big fan of JetBrains and it feel a lot like a JetBrains IDE.

Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance

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Post by userbinator »

toprerules wrote: post #26

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills, because every time I try to use AI for any of my projects - including the "better" Anthropic and OpenAI models, I get terribly written, buggy code that has nothing to do with the domain or question. Unless I'm feeding it actual softball, single function questions it adds almost no value to my dev cycle. Mind you, all of this terrible code also costs a ton in tokens. It's sad becaus…

You're already above average if you can see that AI-generated code is bad. Those who are below average will think it's amazing and improving their abilities.

Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance

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Post by Barrin92 »

softirq wrote: post #30

Side note, but I hate that we're moving to a world where coding costs a subscription. I fell in love with coding because I could take my dad's old Thinkpad, install Linux for free - fire up Emacs and start hacking without an internet connection. We're truly building walls everywhere.

>but I hate that we're moving to a world where coding costs a subscription

I mean you don't need to if you don't want to. I am gainfully employed as a software developer and what I do everyday is literally just fire up Emacs on my Linux machine and write code. To this day I haven't figured out what llms are supposed to do that a bunch of yasnippets don't.

Just like five years ago most of my day is reading and debugging code, I'm not limited by how fast I can type.

Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance

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Post by userbinator »

spondyl wrote: post #47

I know it's a marketing site so the speed is for the sake of the demo but the various animations showing a cursor scrolling past reams of text quicker than any human can scan, and just blindly hitting Accept makes for weird optics.

The message is, unfortunately, clearly quantity-over-quality.

Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance

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Post by tnt128 »

impulser_ wrote: post #61
tnt128 wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Haven’t tried Trae. Is it objectively better than cursor? I felt this statement might be premature. US is still leading in software and AI space.

The chat UX is definitely better than Cursor. It less janky and I like that it wait until generation is done before asking you if you want to apply the suggested the changes instead of loading them into your file right after like cursor does. Also you can apply at cursor which is nice for snippets. The Builder tool is probably the best feature of Trae. It builds React UIs better than any tool even v0 which is built f…

Ah. Thx for the break down.

Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance

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Post by coliveira »

echelon wrote: post #7

China is taking every venture-funded AI startup and shitting on them. Almost all of them. Tencent's Hunyuan 3D - Tripo, etc. Tencent's Hunyuan Video - Sora, Runway, Pika, etc. ByteDance's Trae - Cursor, etc. DeepSeek R1 - GPT, etc. Unitree - Figure, Tesla, Boston Dynamics, etc. And a ton of this stuff is completely open source. All of the Tencent stuff is. This destroys the moat of so many companies that have spent h…

Well, this is apparent if you follow the releases, but Silicon Valley doesn't want you to know that. The strategy of making this open source has a clear goal: to make it easier for other Chinese startups to use it.

Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance

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Post by Aloisius »

cedws wrote: post #60
jofzar wrote: post #14

Who would ever allow this in their organisation after the tiktok shutdown, just go for one of the other 17 ai IDE forks

TikTok was shut down because of clueless bureaucrats and political games, not because of any specific threat. If there was a real risk posed by China why are they idly allowing millions of people to migrate to Xiaohongshu, which is even more strongly controlled by China?

What bureaucrats?

It was banned because of a law passed by Congress. Representatives aren't bureaucrats.

Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance

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Post by meowface »

cedws wrote: post #60
jofzar wrote: post #14

Who would ever allow this in their organisation after the tiktok shutdown, just go for one of the other 17 ai IDE forks

TikTok was shut down because of clueless bureaucrats and political games, not because of any specific threat. If there was a real risk posed by China why are they idly allowing millions of people to migrate to Xiaohongshu, which is even more strongly controlled by China?

They'll probably (justifiably) try to ban Xiaohongshu, too, if it gets anywhere near TikTok's reach in the US market.

Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance

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Post by wruza »

lsllc wrote: post #21
echelon wrote: post #7

China is taking every venture-funded AI startup and shitting on them. Almost all of them. Tencent's Hunyuan 3D - Tripo, etc. Tencent's Hunyuan Video - Sora, Runway, Pika, etc. ByteDance's Trae - Cursor, etc. DeepSeek R1 - GPT, etc. Unitree - Figure, Tesla, Boston Dynamics, etc. And a ton of this stuff is completely open source. All of the Tencent stuff is. This destroys the moat of so many companies that have spent h…

Interesting theory -- maybe trying to diluting/confusing the technology market with alternatives that phone home [to the LLM] with your content. I just had to talk someone I know out of using RedNote as the TikTok shutdown loomed last week -- they had ZERO IDEA about its provenance. Unless you're paying attention, it's actually not clear what's what.

Maybe they just be them, being a second economy and a 4x bigger population that is a few iq points smarter on average.
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