Can someone please do some security research on this to see what it sends when it calls home? I'm terrified to install a binary like that
Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance
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Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance
#82I feel like I'm taking crazy pills, because every time I try to use AI for any of my projects - including the "better" Anthropic and OpenAI models, I get terribly written, buggy code that has nothing to do with the domain or question. Unless I'm feeding it actual softball, single function questions it adds almost no value to my dev cycle. Mind you, all of this terrible code also costs a ton in tokens. It's sad becaus…
Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance
#83I feel like this would've been better as a VSCode extension. Copilot, Q, Gemini, all were able to take this approach. Also, VSCode isn't considered a full IDE and adding some AI features isn't enough to change that. It seems like they forked VS Code just for the ability to say they "created an IDE" in the same way other projects fork Chromium to "build a browser".
Bytedance is signalling it wants to compete against vscode for ide marketshare. Wondering if it is a fork of vscode though because right now it will be competing against cursor.
Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance
#84I feel like I'm taking crazy pills, because every time I try to use AI for any of my projects - including the "better" Anthropic and OpenAI models, I get terribly written, buggy code that has nothing to do with the domain or question. Unless I'm feeding it actual softball, single function questions it adds almost no value to my dev cycle. Mind you, all of this terrible code also costs a ton in tokens. It's sad becaus…
Copilot Edits works incredibly well. It writes 80% of my code with the majority of my work being small fixes. https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/copilot/copilot-edits
Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance
#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
Would you choose this over JetBrains?
No, because I like debuggers but if you don't care about debuggers than I would. It's basically a better Fleet. In fact, it's if Fleet and VS Code had a baby lol.
Like why does this page even exist? https://www.jetbrains.com/ides/#choose-your-ide
Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance
#86I feel like I'm taking crazy pills, because every time I try to use AI for any of my projects - including the "better" Anthropic and OpenAI models, I get terribly written, buggy code that has nothing to do with the domain or question. Unless I'm feeding it actual softball, single function questions it adds almost no value to my dev cycle. Mind you, all of this terrible code also costs a ton in tokens. It's sad becaus…
It’s a tool with limited functionality. I think over time you vaguely learn the shape of its limits and work with what it can do, and it becomes genuinely useful. Doing basic stuff with a very limited scope that’s likely well documented all over the internet, great. Boilerplate, tedious yet simple things, works awesome as enhanced autocomplete. More complex stuff, give it a shot, maybe you’ll get lucky, otherwise if…
Yeah, I think this is exactly right. I use it for adding new files to an existing codebase, but without giving it access to that codebase, by passing in the definitions I want it to work with. It gets stuff wrong a lot, and I need to keep anything I'm asking for _well_ within a scope that I can be eagle-eyed about. But if I want to do something pretty simple that would be slightly annoying to write by hand, and can be done in a single file, it makes a pleasant alternative to typing out the code by hand.
I don't think I would be able to do this as a junior developer, I think this is only working because I can tell when it's full of shit, and I lasted about 90m of being willing to let IDE-integration happen, because it's too easy to be lazy and not scrutinize every little change, and that way lies total madness. This makes me beyond skeptical of non-developers writing anything significant with it: they'd be much, much better off learning Bubble or similar.
Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance
#87I feel like I'm taking crazy pills, because every time I try to use AI for any of my projects - including the "better" Anthropic and OpenAI models, I get terribly written, buggy code that has nothing to do with the domain or question. Unless I'm feeding it actual softball, single function questions it adds almost no value to my dev cycle. Mind you, all of this terrible code also costs a ton in tokens. It's sad becaus…
It takes some practice to get good using them. I use it as a sophisticated autocomplete. For example, if I'm building an api client layer in a web frontend, I might have `fooApi.ts`, `mockFooApi.ts`, and `barApi.ts`. instead of writing `mockBarApi.ts`, something that might take 5 - 15 minutes, I can feed those 3 existing files into context, and a few seconds and pennies later I have a nearly perfect file ready for re…
I certainly can see it being useful for writing additional tests, although I am very worried based on what I've seen that it will introduce more bugs than it's worth, which is why it's still a tool I use for hobby projects and not for real work.
Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance
#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
Copilot Edits works incredibly well. It writes 80% of my code with the majority of my work being small fixes. https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/copilot/copilot-edits
What kind of code/projects do you work on?
I've done some stuff for a compiler in Java, backend web services in Python/Go/TS, frontend w/ React/TS.
I was a huge skeptic of this stuff at first but started using it about a year ago. I could definitely live without it, but it also saves me a significant amount of time.
I've been working on a feature in Python. With Copilot edits I just needed to find files the implemented the pattern, add it to the chat context. and write something like "implement feature x following the same pattern". It never gets it right the first time, but you can just keep the conversation going and have it iterate.
Afterwards I can just write /tests and Copilot generates reasonable tests. If it missed cases I can ask it to write cover those tests. Often times I can also just write literally "cover edge cases" and it handles all reasonable scenarios.
Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance
#89I feel like I'm taking crazy pills, because every time I try to use AI for any of my projects - including the "better" Anthropic and OpenAI models, I get terribly written, buggy code that has nothing to do with the domain or question. Unless I'm feeding it actual softball, single function questions it adds almost no value to my dev cycle. Mind you, all of this terrible code also costs a ton in tokens. It's sad becaus…
But literally every single programmer I know has this opinion.
Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance
#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
No, because I like debuggers but if you don't care about debuggers than I would. It's basically a better Fleet. In fact, it's if Fleet and VS Code had a baby lol.
Does Jetbrains have a language agnostic IDE? Their page makes it look like you need to pick one specific to a language, but I have repos with multiple languages Like why does this page even exist? https://www.jetbrains.com/ides/#choose-your-ide