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Re: ICC issues warrants for Netanyahu, Gallant, and Hamas officials

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Post by cwkoss »

h_tbob wrote: post #289

I don’t get why Israel waged war on Gaza instead of just going for the guy who ordered the attack. Any thoughts?

The Gaza invasion was never about the hostages. If Israel cared about the hostages they wouldn't have indiscriminately bombed the entire territory. The hostages are dead, and demanding the impossible return of people they killed is simply a pretext:

They want land expansion and the total ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Look up 'Greater Israel'. Tim Walz accidentally let it slip during a debate that this is the goal of the US empires support.

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Post by edanm »

ada1981 wrote: post #525
pagade wrote: post #463

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Antisemitic. Every time I hear this word, I can’t help but think of its irony—a term used exclusively for describing discrimination against one community, as if prejudice against them carries more weight than against any other. Perhaps, though, it serves as the best reflection of our hypocrisy.

Especially when you consider "semites" are a member of an ancient or modern people from southwestern Asia, such as the Akkadians, Phoenicians, Hebrews, or Arabs. It can also refer to a descendant of these peoples. So, many Palestinians are Semites as well. And one may conclude when Ovadia Yosef, a former Chief Rabbi of Israel, says: “It is forbidden to be merciful to them. You must send missiles to them and annihilat…

Antisemitism specifically refers to hatred of Jews. It doesn't matter whether it's the most accurate term given that it's anti-semitism; that's still what the term means.

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Post by bjoli »

GordonS wrote: post #223
PaulHoule wrote: post #103

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Thanks to our media and politicians.

And in turn, thanks to orgs like AIPAC.

I had a look at the democrats who support the recent "Stop Terror-Financing and Tax Penalties on American Hostages Act". I had a look at 10 of them. 7 of them had substantial donations from AIPAC. The others were soon up for re-election.

I am not American, but why oh why are you not rooting in the streets? That is just soooo effed up. This is just one of so many issues, and AIPAC is a just a part of the problem. It is just so obvious that U.S. politicians are up for purchase.

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Post by jojobas »

netsharc wrote: post #554
xenospn wrote: post #372

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The whole "The Muslims/Muslim countries won't do X, and therefore why should we?" argument is funny and depressing to me. Why won't they do X? Because maybe in your mind you think they're savages/less civilized. Less, that is, compared to you/your community's (in whatever scale: nation, race, hemisphere). But if you're saying "If they don't do X, we can behave the same", isn't that a call for you/your community to ab…

>Because maybe in your mind you think they're savages/less civilized.

No, rather because they want to use the international law to their advantage, not to their detriment.

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Post by cwkoss »

iamleppert wrote: post #587

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Israel

Numerous IDF soldiers and settlers have been photographed wearing or displaying the shape of Greater Israel - a plan to seize land and expand Israel into almost every one of its neighbors territories. Tim Walz even let slip in the debate that "expansion" was a key goal of US support.

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Post by spongebobism »

immibis wrote: post #266
locallost wrote: post #248

I doubt there will be actual arrests, but there will be and there are already consequences. I just saw France and Netherlands announced they will obey the warrants, thus Netanyahu can no longer travel there. Presumably the whole of EU is off limits (I am unaware which countries recognize the court).

I expect Germany to declare the opposite. There is a small chance this incident fractures the European Union.

Current opposition leader Friedrich Merz, who will probably win the snap elections in February, has even before the court ordered the warrant called for Germany not to obey it. But of course, it's easier to take strong stances when you're not part of that government that has to act on them yet. We'll see.

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Post by throw310822 »

magic_hamster wrote: post #301
bbqfog wrote: post #144

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Israel was massively radicalized by October 7th. Prior to October 7th, a lot of Israelis believed that if Palestinians had a better economy and could afford a comfortable life, peace would be possible. October 7th was not just a surprise to many Israelis, but also the atrocities were so horrible that it radically changed how Israelis view the situation. This is hard to grasp, but a lot of people don't really understa…

> Israel was massively radicalized by October 7th

Israel had been locking Gaza in a total blockade for 17 years (with talk of "keeping them on a diet"), plus had bombed Gaza multiple times resulting in more than 5000 deaths (= 5 October 7ths- they called this "mowing the lawn". During these bombing campaigns we have pictures of Israelis enjoying the show from afar from observation points with food and drinks).

In the meanwhile they enforced an apartheid regime in the West Bank, building new settlements for hundreds of thousands of residents, and launching pogroms to drive away the Palestinian population.

So no, it wasn't Oct 7th that radicalised them.

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magic_hamster wrote: post #301
bbqfog wrote: post #144

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Israel was massively radicalized by October 7th. Prior to October 7th, a lot of Israelis believed that if Palestinians had a better economy and could afford a comfortable life, peace would be possible. October 7th was not just a surprise to many Israelis, but also the atrocities were so horrible that it radically changed how Israelis view the situation. This is hard to grasp, but a lot of people don't really understa…

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Post by bjoli »

bbqfog wrote: post #144
justin66 wrote: post #60

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> Did they really think that when they talk Hebrew to their audience, rest of the world does not hear them. When it comes to US public opinion, that's normally the way it works.

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