"The Chamber therefore found reasonable grounds to believe that Mr Netanyahu and Mr Gallant bear criminal responsibility for the war crime of starvation as a method of warfare." Whats perhaps interesting to note is that this charge was made for "just" 41 [1] confirmed starvation deaths among a population of 2,141,643 people [2]. Of course every death caused by intentional starvation is a severe crime and must be puni…
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#212Earlier quoted context omitted.
I wonder who you think in the US political sphere would treat them any differently.
None actually. I just tried to illustrate the futility of this warrant.
Few things bother me more than people who try to claim Biden/Harris was “good for ukraine” or “good for palestine”.
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There are many signatories who are obliged to arrest anyone with an ICC warrant: https://asp.icc-cpi.int/states-parties
Obliged by who? The US can choose to wipe their ass with whatever they signed and arbitrarily say NO to a request they don't like. Who's gonna hold them accountable for breaking their signed agreement? Wasn't there the same pitfall with the League of Nations?
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#214Netanyahu I'm not surprised, but Gallant? EDIT: Asking genuinely on Gallant all I know is he was minister of defence and had a felling out with Netanyahu.
"Defense minister [Gallant] announces ‘complete siege’ of Gaza: No power, food or fuel". [1] [1] https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/defense-ministe...
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#215Netanyahu I'm not surprised, but Gallant? EDIT: Asking genuinely on Gallant all I know is he was minister of defence and had a felling out with Netanyahu.
Gallant's position is that there are no innocent people in Gaza and that they should be starved to death. He's said this many times: https://x.com/KhalilJeries/status/1853905224320372923
I thought he was much more of a moderate in Netanyahu cabinet.
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> Whats perhaps interesting to note is that this charge was made for "just" 41 [1] confirmed starvation deaths among a population of 2,141,643 people [2]. IANAL but this is probably incorrect i think - the starvation charge is related to allegations of intentionally restricting neccesities of life. Whether anyone dies as a result is irrelavent to that charge. The murder charge is for the people who actually allegedly…
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#217>In his first response to the ICC issuing a warrant for his arrest on allegations of war crimes, Benjamin Netanyahu’s office has described the ruling as “absurd and false lies” and said the decision is “antisemitic.” https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2024/nov/21/internati... If Netanyahu and Gallant really think they are innocent, and the allegations are absurd and false, they should cooperate with the ICC. Have…
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It’s really rather simple. Anyone on this planet only has as much authority as their guns provide them. The people who operate these courts have fewer guns than the US, so they don’t get authority over US interests.
Of course. Isn't it obvious how in history books the "good guys" were always those with the most guns who ended up defeating the guys with less guns, who lost and were always the bad guys, 100% of the time? What a strange coincidence.
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#219Wondering what happens to so many Western leaders who supported Netanyahu unconditionally.
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"Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu gambled that a strong Hamas (but not too strong) would keep the peace and reduce pressure for a Palestinian state." - From "Buying Quiet: Inside the Israeli Plan That Propped Up Hamas", NYTimes [1]
[1] https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/10/world/middleeast/israel-q...