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Re: Mira Murati leaves OpenAI

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If you keep working past $10M net worth (as all these people undoubtedly are) its usually always for legacy. I actually think Sam's vision probably scares them.

$10M doesn't go as far as you'd think in the Bay Area or NYC.

Which is why smart retirees don't fucking live there.

Re: Mira Murati leaves OpenAI

#182

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If you keep working past $10M net worth (as all these people undoubtedly are) its usually always for legacy. I actually think Sam's vision probably scares them.

> its usually always for legacy Legacy is the dumbest reason to work and does not explain the motivation of the vast majority of people that are wealthy. edit: The vast majority of people with more than $10million are completely unknown so the idea that they care about legacy is stupid.

What do you think their motivations might be?

Re: Mira Murati leaves OpenAI

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Why is it so hard to just accept this and be transparent about motives ? It's fair to say 'we were not aligned with Sam, we tried an ouster, didn't pan out so the best thing for us to do is to leave and let Sam pursue his path", which the entirely company has vouched for. Instead, you get to see grey area after grey area.

Because, for some weird reason, our culture has collectively decided that, even if most of us are capable of reading between the lines to understand what's really being said or is happening, it's often wrong and bad to be honest and transparent, and we should put the most positive spin possible on it. It's everywhere, especially in professional and political environments.

McKinsey MBA brain rot seeping into all levels of culture

Re: Mira Murati leaves OpenAI

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It is hard for me to square "This company is a few short years away from building world-changing AGI" and "I'm stepping away to do my own thing". Maybe I'm just bad at putting myself in someone else's shoes, but I feel like if I had spent years working towards a vision of AGI, and thought that success was finally just around the corner, it'd be very difficult to walk away.

I could see it being close, but also feeling an urgency to get there first / believing you could do it better.

Re: Mira Murati leaves OpenAI

#187

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Maybe she has inside info that it's not "around the corner". Making bigger and bigger models does not make AGI, not to mention exponential increase in power requirements for these models which would be basically unfeasible for mass market. Maybe, just maybe, we reached diminishing returns with AI, for now at least.

People have been saying that we reached the limits of AI/LLMs since GPT4. Using o1-preview (which is barely a few weeks old) for coding, which is definitely an improvement, suggests there's still solid improvements going on, don't you think?

Continued improvement is returns, making it inherently compatible with a diminishing returns scenario. Which I also suspect we're in now: there's no comparing the jump between GPT3.5 and GPT4 with GPT4 and any of the subsequent releases.

Whether or not we're leveling out, only time will tell. That's definitely what it looks like, but it might just be a plateau.

Re: Mira Murati leaves OpenAI

#189
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It is hard for me to square "This company is a few short years away from building world-changing AGI" and "I'm stepping away to do my own thing". Maybe I'm just bad at putting myself in someone else's shoes, but I feel like if I had spent years working towards a vision of AGI, and thought that success was finally just around the corner, it'd be very difficult to walk away.

easy for me to relate to that, my time is more interesting than that

being in San Francisco for 6 years and success means getting hauled in front of Congress and European Parliament

cant think of a worse occupational nightmare after having an 8-figure nest egg already

Re: Mira Murati leaves OpenAI

#190

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I think OP means the failed coup in which they attempted to oust Altman?

Yeah the GP's point is the board was acting within its purview by dismissing the CEO. The coup was the successful counter-campaign against the board by Altman and the investors.

The successful coup was led by Satya Nadella.
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