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Re: Mira Murati leaves OpenAI

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It is hard for me to square "This company is a few short years away from building world-changing AGI" and "I'm stepping away to do my own thing". Maybe I'm just bad at putting myself in someone else's shoes, but I feel like if I had spent years working towards a vision of AGI, and thought that success was finally just around the corner, it'd be very difficult to walk away.

I think the much more likely scenario than product roadmap concerns is that Murati (and Ilya for that matter) took their shot to remove Sam, lost, and in an effort to collectively retain billion$ of enterprise value have been playing nice, but were never seriously going to work together again after the failed coup.

This is the likely scenario. Every conflict at exec level comes with a "messaging" aspect, with there being a comms team, and board to manage that part.

Re: Mira Murati leaves OpenAI

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Among other perfectly reasonable theories mentioned here, people burn out.

This isn't a delivery app we're talking about. "Burn out" doesn't apply when the issue at hand is AGI (and, possibly, superintelligence).

That isn't fair. People need a break. "AGI" / "superintelligence" is not a cause with so much potential we should just damage a bunch of people on the route to it.

Re: Mira Murati leaves OpenAI

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Among other perfectly reasonable theories mentioned here, people burn out.

This isn't a delivery app we're talking about. "Burn out" doesn't apply when the issue at hand is AGI (and, possibly, superintelligence).

Why would you think burnout doesn't apply? It should be a possibility in pretty much any pursuit, since it's primarily about investing too much energy into a direction that you can't psychologically bring yourself to invest any more into it.

Re: Mira Murati leaves OpenAI

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Among other perfectly reasonable theories mentioned here, people burn out.

This isn't a delivery app we're talking about. "Burn out" doesn't apply when the issue at hand is AGI (and, possibly, superintelligence).

Software is developed by humans, who can burn out for any reason.

Re: Mira Murati leaves OpenAI

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My bet is all of these people can raise 20-100M for their own startups. And they are already rich enough to retire. OpenAI is going corporate

If you keep working past $10M net worth (as all these people undoubtedly are) its usually always for legacy.

I actually think Sam's vision probably scares them.

Re: Mira Murati leaves OpenAI

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that's a lot of core people leaving, especially since they're apparently so close to a "revolution in AGI" I feel like either they're not close at all and the people know it's all lies or they're seeing some shady stuff and want nothing to do with it

A simpler explanation is that SamA is consolidating power at the company and pushing out everyone who hasn't been loyal to him from the start.

And it also explains what Mira (and everyone else who left) saw; the true cost of a failed coup and what Sam Altman is really doing since he is consolidating power at OpenAI (and getting equity)

Re: Mira Murati leaves OpenAI

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It is hard for me to square "This company is a few short years away from building world-changing AGI" and "I'm stepping away to do my own thing". Maybe I'm just bad at putting myself in someone else's shoes, but I feel like if I had spent years working towards a vision of AGI, and thought that success was finally just around the corner, it'd be very difficult to walk away.

What if she believes AGI is imminent and is relocating to a remote location to build a Faraday-shielded survival bunker.

Re: Mira Murati leaves OpenAI

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> It is hard for me to square "This company is a few short years away from building world-changing AGI" Altmans quote was that "it's possible that we will have superintelligence in a few thousand days", which sounds a lot more optimistic on the surface than it actually is. A few thousand days could be interpreted as 10 years or more, and by adding the "possibly" qualifier he didn't even really commit to that predicti…

>Altmans quote was that AGI "could be just a few thousand days away" which sounds a lot more optimistic on the surface than it actually is. I think he was referring to ASI, not AGI.

Isn't ASI > AGI?
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