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If you keep working past $10M net worth (as all these people undoubtedly are) its usually always for legacy. I actually think Sam's vision probably scares them.
$10M doesn't go as far as you'd think in the Bay Area or NYC.
It is hard for me to square "This company is a few short years away from building world-changing AGI" and "I'm stepping away to do my own thing". Maybe I'm just bad at putting myself in someone else's shoes, but I feel like if I had spent years working towards a vision of AGI, and thought that success was finally just around the corner, it'd be very difficult to walk away.
I think the much more likely scenario than product roadmap concerns is that Murati (and Ilya for that matter) took their shot to remove Sam, lost, and in an effort to collectively retain billion$ of enterprise value have been playing nice, but were never seriously going to work together again after the failed coup.
Instead, you get to see grey area after grey area.
...and Sam Altman once again posts a response including uppercase, similar to when Ilya left. It's like he wants to let everyone know that he didn't actually care enough to write it himself but just asked chatGPT to write something for him.
It is hard for me to square "This company is a few short years away from building world-changing AGI" and "I'm stepping away to do my own thing". Maybe I'm just bad at putting myself in someone else's shoes, but I feel like if I had spent years working towards a vision of AGI, and thought that success was finally just around the corner, it'd be very difficult to walk away.
It's easy to have missed this part of the story in all the chaos, but from the NYTimes in March: Ms. Murati wrote a private memo to Mr. Altman raising questions about his management and also shared her concerns with the board. That move helped to propel the board’s decision to force him out. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/07/technology/openai-executi... It should be no surprise if Sam Altman wants executives who opp…
And John Schulman, and Peter Deng are out already. Yet the company is still shipping, like no other. Recent multimodal integrations and benchmarks of o1 are outstanding.
It is hard for me to square "This company is a few short years away from building world-changing AGI" and "I'm stepping away to do my own thing". Maybe I'm just bad at putting myself in someone else's shoes, but I feel like if I had spent years working towards a vision of AGI, and thought that success was finally just around the corner, it'd be very difficult to walk away.
This is just one more in a series of massive red flags around this company, from the insanely convoluted governance scheme, over the board drama, to many executives and key people leaving afterwards. It feels like Sam is doing the cleanup and anyone who opposes him has no place at OpenAI.
This, coming around the time where there are rumors of possible change to the corporate structure to be more friendly to investors, is an interesting timing.
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Failed coup? Altman managed to usurp the board's power, seems pretty successful to me
I think OP means the failed coup in which they attempted to oust Altman?
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>Altmans quote was that AGI "could be just a few thousand days away" which sounds a lot more optimistic on the surface than it actually is. I think he was referring to ASI, not AGI.
Isn't ASI > AGI?
By all the standards I had growing up, ChatGPT is already AGI. It's almost certainly not as economically transformative as it needs to be to meet OpenAI's stated definition.
OTOH that may be due to limited availability rather than limited quality: if all the 20 USD/month for Plus gets spent on electricity to run the servers, at $0.10/kWh, that's about 274 W average consumption. Scaled up to the world population, that's approximately the entire global electricity supply. Which is kinda why there's also all the stories about AI data centres getting dedicated power plants.
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I don’t think we’re gonna see a winter. LLMs are here to stay. Natural language interfaces are great. Embeddings are incredibly useful. They just won’t be the hottest thing since smartphones.
It’s a glorified grammar corrector?
I think actually the best use case for LLMs is "explainer".
When combined with RAG, it's fantastic at taking a complex corpus of information and distilling it down into more digestible summaries.