GM electric vehicles can now access Tesla Superchargers

Post by ericd » Thu, Sep 19, 2024, 1:34 AM UTC

theluketaylor wrote: post #69

rconti wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So what does this mean for a Tesla on an NACS charger? Do they already support CCS over that port, or is it a software update? I know Teslas were already CCS in Europe, so I wouldn't be surprised if the software is already basically there.

Tesla version 3 superchargers already use CCS for communication between car and charger for 2019 and later vehicles. Version 2 superchargers do not speak CCS and won't ever be opened to non-Tesla vehicles and there are certain routes where that's quite annoying. My most common road trip has 5 supercharger locations along the way with 3 of them being V2, including the most isolated charger. Even once the NACS changeov…

Post by BurningFrog » Thu, Sep 19, 2024, 1:40 AM UTC

losvedir wrote: post #18

JanSolo wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I still struggle to see how this ends up favorable for Tesla in the long run. They're expanding their customer-base by maybe 2x or more. Those new customers will be be giving recurring payments to Tesla. For vehicles that Tesla didn't build. How is that not favourable?

Tesla doesn't break out the details, but I think it's generally understood among investors that they just break even on Supercharger. Their profit comes from their cars, and the Supercharger network was a competitive advantage to get people to buy the cars. I think they opened up the Supercharger network to ensure that the US didn't establish CCS as the standard and overtake Superchargers, such that Teslas have a com…

Post by maxerickson » Thu, Sep 19, 2024, 2:16 AM UTC

gwbas1c wrote: post #50

bluGill wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

More importantly, there are not a lot of chargers. Gas stations are on every important intersections, chargers are much less common and only rarely in places as convenient. (part of this is charging takes longer and there is the expectation the people charging are willing to go a little farther to find someplace where there is something else to do). As electric cars become more common every car manufacture needs to b…

Uhm, that's no longer true. There's a lot of new charging stations. This summer, I drove from MA to Washington DC and every other rest stop had chargers; sometimes multiple brands. I also drove from MA to Montreal and there were plenty of chargers. Basically, every time I needed to pee there was a charger 5-10 minutes ahead of me. Plugged in, went to the bathroom, and then I had more than enough charge to go to the n…

Post by cmrdporcupine » Thu, Sep 19, 2024, 2:24 AM UTC

evanelias wrote: post #74

jes5199 wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

no, the GM-branded one that won't void my warrantee

They made it ridiculously convoluted to order. You need to use the awful MyChevrolet app, and click your initials in the corner. From there, select "Public Charging". After it loads, there should be a Tesla-related option to click towards the top. (If it's missing, force-kill the app and relaunch and try again. I had to do that, even though I was already running the latest version of the app.) Next you'll need to ent…

Post by ellisv » Thu, Sep 19, 2024, 2:54 AM UTC

flurie wrote: post #4

I'd seen some rumors that Tesla has been trying to slow down onboarding of other automakers to their charging network, so it's good to see information to the contrary. I still struggle to see how this ends up favorable for Tesla in the long run. They did not charge licensing fees for the connector, and even if they charge a premium to charge non-Tesla vehicles, now owners of Tesla vehicles are going to run into situa…