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Re: Brazil's X ban is sending lots of people to Bluesky

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I was wondering these days if something like this could exist. Can one follow along somewhere?

swap bsky for blebbit in the url bar

Awesome, bookmarked!

Looking forward to login being oauth based, but from what I've vaguely remember skimming these weeks, that's an @proto limitation that is being worked on?!

Re: Brazil's X ban is sending lots of people to Bluesky

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The reason I don't move to the USA is because of woke people, scary numbers of mental health and crime. The reason I moved country is because woke politics is making life worse. Crime is through the roof, kids can't go out in the cities by themselves because it's too dangerous. They started doing mandatory "gender identity" education in school, teaching crap to my kids. I'm still in Europe and observing a progressive…

Some countries in Eastern Europe actively opposes gender stuff (it is banned in education). I do not know why "gender" is being asked in the first place, it should be "sex", and that is biological. Why do we ask for gender on websites, for example? What is the purpose of it, really?

> Why do we ask for gender on websites, for example? What is the purpose of it, really?

I can only think of two reasons:

1) Localised messages to and from the user. Not every language supports gender-neutral singular "you/they".

2) Demographic tracking e.g. for advertising: I've been given unskippable ads on YouTube for sanitary pads, and have forgotten which ad network presented me with one for dick pills.

Re: Brazil's X ban is sending lots of people to Bluesky

#823
post #465

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Oh, true. But the problem is that Musk, rich has he is, can't run Twitter indefinitely without revenue (more than he's getting today, and it's likely declining). He needs it to perform financially if it's to continue to be a going concern.

He's going the other route - lower costs. He got rid of the overwhelming majority of staff, moved (or is moving?) the HQ out of San Francisco and California - meaning lower costs + lower tax, and so on. So while revenue has decreased, so have costs. In later 2023 he stated that it was expected for Twitter to be profitable early in 2024. Given there was no follow up announcement I doubt this goal was achieved, but it…

while twitter is no longer competitive with mainstream social media sites, it has a good chance of putting a dent in 4chans numbers.

Re: Brazil's X ban is sending lots of people to Bluesky

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post #201

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The bluesky team worked previously on IPFS and Dat/Hypercore and Secure Scuttlebutt. Whyrusleeping - one of the core authors of IPFS - has been an active technical advisor from the start. ATProto is basically those p2p & content addressed techs moved into the server stack. None of us are bullish on client side p2p for large scale publishing or social applications, and we spent 10 years each doing that.

I'd love to hear what the Bluesky team thinks of Nostr. It seems pretty damning to me that a founder of Bluesky is now talking up the latter.

Nostr is tied to the crypto coin crowd, which is largely off-putting to most people

Dorsey is certainly focused on that realm

Re: Brazil's X ban is sending lots of people to Bluesky

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post #821

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swap bsky for blebbit in the url bar

Awesome, bookmarked! Looking forward to login being oauth based, but from what I've vaguely remember skimming these weeks, that's an @proto limitation that is being worked on?!

OAuth is apparently implemented and we are waiting on documentation, soon (tm)

Re: Brazil's X ban is sending lots of people to Bluesky

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Reddit can still be a great place to discuss hobbies and foment helpful and insightful discussion in my experience. While the platform has its flaws, I don't see it being wrong to try and replicate.

I also don't see anything wrong with trying to do that. I am talking about communication, not development. Mussolini probably used fountain pens, but I wouldn't advertise a pen as just the way Mussolini liked it!.

Re: Brazil's X ban is sending lots of people to Bluesky

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> he legitimately believes that “the woke mind virus” is an existential threat to our society Sure. I don't think he's a hypocrite. He has , however, hyper fixated on a topic that's in vogue in tech circles but totally irrelevant elsewhere. Unlike in technology, where one can credibly fail upwards, doing that in politics comes at the cost of influence. And in this block order we're seeing, tangibly, the consequences…

The reason I don't move to the USA is because of woke people, scary numbers of mental health and crime. The reason I moved country is because woke politics is making life worse. Crime is through the roof, kids can't go out in the cities by themselves because it's too dangerous. They started doing mandatory "gender identity" education in school, teaching crap to my kids. I'm still in Europe and observing a progressive…

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Re: Brazil's X ban is sending lots of people to Bluesky

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I'd love to hear what the Bluesky team thinks of Nostr. It seems pretty damning to me that a founder of Bluesky is now talking up the latter.

Nostr is tied to the crypto coin crowd, which is largely off-putting to most people Dorsey is certainly focused on that realm

nostr's protocol is also fairly unstructured compared to atproto. ive researched bluesky, farcaster, and nostr, and their cultural origins have definitely impacted how they have approached their designs.

There is no predicting what approaches will win, but those 3 are the current viable options I think.

FYI I am part of the crypto crowd myself, but I am a SWE looking at these systems, not a CT gambler, lol.

Re: Brazil's X ban is sending lots of people to Bluesky

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I think banning any network that allows citizens to air their views, whatever they may be, is very dangerous. Free speech that is free of control is essential. I also think that anyone, especially someone prone to childish tantrums like Musk, having unquestionable control of a major network on which citizens can air their views, is also very dangerous. Free speech that is free of control is essential.

This is one angle. But X is more a mouth piece for its ketamine soaked owner who has some pretty nasty views. Plenty of places to share your view. At least, anyone can create a webpage.

Agreed; I wouldn't consider X a public free-speech forum anymore.

Re: Brazil's X ban is sending lots of people to Bluesky

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Nostr is a protocol. Bluesky is a product.

That's why Nostr is far better.

Um.. compare nostr to atproto, not bluesky.

They take very different approaches even if they have similar goals.

Neither is better I think unless you want to get fanboy tribal. It is to be seen what apps will scale and gain adoption for each, though bluesky having a few mil in funding and normal users definitely puts it in the lead.

Speaking as someone funded in the crypto industry... nostr, IMHO, is dominated by BTC maxis and creating a monoculture around it, which will prevent adoption, b/c a social network isn't going to just be talk about NgU and HODL'ing all day.

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