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The failure of the Domino's 30-minute delivery guarantee

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Post by [deleted] »

pcrh wrote: post #210
michaelt wrote: post #133

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> The insane thing is people trying to make a livable wage off of "gigs". > We should stop pretending this is or ever can be reasonable full-time employment. Hypothetically, imagine a society that required welfare claimants to accept any job they were offered. If any would not work, neither should he eat. Should such a society allow shitty/exploitative/dangerous jobs to exist, and force welfare claimants to work them…

> If any would not work, neither should he eat. Ironically, that is one of the original "10 planks of communism" by Marx and Engels (i.e. "The liability of all to labour").

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Post by BobaFloutist »

nradov wrote: post #203
tyingq wrote: post #173

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The scoring system doesn't necessarily reflect reality. Separately, there is a drive towards a sort of "social credit rating" that I do think is a bad thing. In the narrower space of having a criminal history, the US is very different in how that affects people that have done their time. Any company can do a dirt-cheap background check, this makes people close to unemployable. In other countries, like Australia, empl…

Some US states have now adopted "ban the box" legislation which prohibits asking job candidates about criminal history (at least for certain jobs). Of course, it's still tough to explain a 10-year employment gap on a CV. https://www.nelp.org/publication/ban-the-box-fair-chance-hir...

It's also toothless when the employer's insurance company can require a (post-hire) background check to cover the employee and failing it is grounds for canceling the hire.

I don't see an obvious solution, because compelling commercial insurance to cover someone with repeat duis/reckless driving/addiction issues in a work truck doesn't feel quite fair, but there needs to be a path to gainful employment for ex-cons if we want our supposedly rehabilitative justice system to have even a chance of working, and there's not a lot of options that aren't customer facing, don't involve driving, and don't put you in some sort of security context or in charge of accounts or money.

Basically, any job that pays worth a damn requires a bit of trust, and we simply don't trust ex cons. And they're probably statistically somewhat less trustworthy, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't have a path out. For our sake as much as theirs.

Re: The failure of the Domino's 30-minute delivery guarantee

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Post by JohnFen »

John23832 wrote: post #198
JohnFen wrote: post #170

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> because you as the consumer are not actually willing to pay what it costs to have someone deliver your food to you as a job. Isn't that the fault of the businesses? People are paying what the business is charging. Are you faulting customers for not paying more than the business asks for the service?

> Isn't that the fault of the businesses? People are paying what the business is charging. Are you faulting customers for not paying more than the business asks for the service? No, I am painting the reality of the situation in an effort to point out that the OP's attempt to "abuse by ratings" is misplaced. Where we stand at this point is that the OP wants a service (food delivery), but is receiveing a market discoun…

The OP mentioned reducing the rating due to late delivery. I don't think that can count as "abusing the delivery people". It's one of the things that as a customer I'd hope would be reflected in the ratings.

But again, this sort of thing is a great example of how ratings don't actually help anybody. Gaming the rating just to be nice to the service providers makes the ratings worthless to the customers.

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Post by 15155 »

AlexandrB wrote: post #192
15155 wrote: post #125

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More than 50% of that 10.84 consists of suicides - a fairly typical, convenient omission for folks with an agenda. "Get killed" would imply that "you" weren't the actor doing the killing. Somalia suicide rate: 7.90 per 100K United States suicide rate: 14 per 100K How many of these US and Somalia deaths are associated with organized crime?

Considering the rate of "regret"[1] on failed suicide attempts, this isn't the slam dunk you think it is. [1] https://ennyman.medium.com/a-lesson-from-29-golden-gate-suic...

The original comment was:

> You're more likely to get killed using a gun in the US than Somalia

How is suicide or the regret thereof relevant to "getting killed?"

Re: The failure of the Domino's 30-minute delivery guarantee

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Post by chihuahua »

nradov wrote: post #197
pryelluw wrote: post #182

An offer so good (dangerous, yes) that took a shitty pizza place to a current 16B-ish valuation is a failure? This is actually a good example of a mediocre product growing due to an incredible offer. Something that most business don’t event bother to consider. Your offer is definitely more important than even features in most cases.

In fairness to Domino's, they did also increase the quality of the pizza. It is at least no longer terrible. https://hbr.org/2016/11/how-dominos-pizza-reinvented-itself

I read about that back then, thought "oh I should give Domino's another try", and it was still terrible. If it was even worse before, I can't imagine how that is possible.

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Post by crackercrews »

mFixman wrote: post #92
xvector wrote: post #34

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> For instance, the difference between an Uber driver with 4.3 stars and 4.9 stars is consistently obvious. Yeah, 4.9 drivers explicitly ask for a good rating. It's the same for 4.3 and 4.9 star restaurants in Google Maps. Reviews make sense if you can read other people's comments, otherwise they are useless. I wouldn't mind if 5-star ratings in service apps were replaced with more detailed "I had a problem" forms.

> Yeah, 4.9 drivers explicitly ask for a good rating.

Literally have never experienced this.

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Post by lupusreal »

BobaFloutist wrote: post #222
nradov wrote: post #203

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Some US states have now adopted "ban the box" legislation which prohibits asking job candidates about criminal history (at least for certain jobs). Of course, it's still tough to explain a 10-year employment gap on a CV. https://www.nelp.org/publication/ban-the-box-fair-chance-hir...

It's also toothless when the employer's insurance company can require a (post-hire) background check to cover the employee and failing it is grounds for canceling the hire. I don't see an obvious solution, because compelling commercial insurance to cover someone with repeat duis/reckless driving/addiction issues in a work truck doesn't feel quite fair, but there needs to be a path to gainful employment for ex-cons if…

Ideally the insurance company only cares about crimes that are relevant to the job; theft or embezzlement for workers handling cash. DUIs for drivers. Etc. There are certain combinations of crime and job that are sensibly going to be risky, but how do you prevent companies from being overcautious? An insurance company that was more optimally cautious than overcautious won't gain much for it.

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Post by mrguyorama »

_heimdall wrote: post #95
ta1243 wrote: post #63

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It was common when you had a stay-at-home parent who did fresh shopping in the day then cooked a meal later for when their spouse (husband) came in just before 6pm (6.30 if he'd stopped off for a pint on the way home) Not so common when people get in from picking the kids up from daycare at 7.30pm and have to be up and out by 7am the next morning. Longer commutes, less time at home, and all that extra income has gone…

We've made our lives and society so busy and complicated. I've always been confused by how much we collectively value convenience products/services while simultaneously making everything more complex. I do hope that everyone is living the life they want and I'm just out of touch though. The idea of being away from home and my kids for 12+ hours every day and eating out before going to bed and doing it all over sounds…

>We've made our lives and society so busy and complicated

"We" have done nothing. Our managers, bosses, and executives have made everyone else's lives miserable, for their benefit.

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Post by youcantcook »

FeepingCreature wrote: post #214
everforward wrote: post #156

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No, but some people do need to be informed of how dangerous it is, and doctors can either prescribe weight loss medications or give a referral to a doctor specializing in medical and surgical weight loss. Regardless, it’s something I would expect doctors to nag patients about, the same way my dentist nags me to floss.

Why, if there's proven to be no benefit?

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Post by mckn1ght »

hypeatei wrote: post #185
Filligree wrote: post #74

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Pathfinding algorithms are absolutely artificial intelligence. A* and so on were invented in just that sort of research. It may not be AGI, but that was never claimed.

If I write an if statement, is that AI?

In the end, it’s all jumps, adds, flips and shifts.
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