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'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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Post by publius_0xf3 »

windowshopping wrote: post #41
gruez wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>First case in my lifetime where a US corporation appears to have murdered someone for political reasons Is there anything supporting this theory other than the fact the death benefits Boeing?

I did say "appears," but this is some Epstein levels of "coincidence." I'm not really a conspiracy-theory type, but I mean c'mon. Does anyone believe that Epstein killed himself? Makes me think of this little stand-up comedy snippet. https://www.reddit.com/r/StandUpComedy/comments/14rcr7n/cons... "I understand not believing in most conspiracy theories, but NONE? You really think the government's batting 100? They ain…

>Does anyone believe that Epstein killed himself?

Yes, I do. Like you, I found the circumstances of Epstein's death incredibly suspicious and thought it was a murder. But the more information that has come out, the more it looks like it was a typical prison suicide. [The latest AP article](https://apnews.com/article/jeffrey-epstein-jail-suicide-pris...) is pretty good.

>Two weeks before ending his life, Jeffrey Epstein sat in the corner of his Manhattan jail cell with his hands over his ears, desperate to muffle the sound of a toilet that wouldn’t stop running.

Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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Post by logicchains »

hnfong wrote: post #133
treprinum wrote: post #122

It's pretty brutal if nobody cares about the optics of this anymore, just kill off whoever is inconvenient. I guess after Epstein's "two cameras malfunction" nobody cares about any public backlash and there is "normal day in Russia" to be inspired from...

What public backlash? It seems people here are content to call those who suspect Epstein suicide "very gullible"... It's interesting how the English language labels people "conspiracy theorists", like how the totally batshit crazy ones gets lumped together with those that actually seem to be suspect.

It's not the "English language", the term "conspiracy theorist" was literally invented by the CIA to smear people who alleged the CIA was conspiring against the public.

Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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Post by otherme123 »

hughesjj wrote: post #185
raizer88 wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Boing is so entrenched with defence contractors that any one of them could have killed him to preserve existing contracts to be canned do to some "deep restructuring" due to the trial.

I really wish Boeing defense got spun off, them being under the same leadership is a threat to national security. The infection is only growing as they continue to share leadership. Could the union elect/nominate new leadership, or are they corrupt these days as well?

Curiously, the Boeing branch that works for defense comes from the McDonell-Douglas buy: pre-merge Boeing main bussiness was comercial airplanes, MD was focused on military contracts. And arguably, all the current Boeing problems come from that buy/merge.

Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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Post by lostlogin »

whacko_quacko wrote: post #167
pydry wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>It’s a very unsafe place when you don’t toe the line. Very much like America, apparently. The part where plenty of people express skepticism that theses death were really suspicious seems to be similar too.

> Very much like America, apparently. No. America isn't in the habit of regularily murdering dissidents

Is anyone refuting this? It’s hardly a wild claim.

Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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Post by generic92034 »

pydry wrote: post #139
roenxi wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And when powerful people want to show off their power it tends to be less fatal and more drag-through-the-mud style tactics. Like what happened to Julian Assange. Killing him was an option on the table as far as I recall, but it wasn't what they ended up doing. Although that being said, I wouldn't rule this out as being organised by Boeing's management or a major shareholder or something. It is a company in the milit…

Assange talked about his dead man's switch previously. If it weren't for that the powers that be probably would have Putined him.

Is that plausible, though? Why would he not have used that leverage to prevent captivity?

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Post by thecatspaw »

lukan wrote: post #191
dullcrisp wrote: post #182

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do wonder what happened there. CEO texts the chief communications officer that someone posting online needs to be taken down, chief communication officer takes that literally and relays the order to the head of security?

Well, how do you take down some blog, if there is no legal base for it, because all the content was obvious legal? If there would have been a legal angle, they would have send out lawyers letters instead. That was apparently not an option, so crime was the only way to go. And that no one at the top gets prosecuted for this, is quite disappointing.

You can still ask their hosting company to take down the content for example, or try to pay them off, or other things.

Or since it was in the US make up some bogus claim and take them to court and hope they cannot afford court proceedings and fold.

Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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Post by hayst4ck »

hughesjj wrote: post #185
raizer88 wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Boing is so entrenched with defence contractors that any one of them could have killed him to preserve existing contracts to be canned do to some "deep restructuring" due to the trial.

I really wish Boeing defense got spun off, them being under the same leadership is a threat to national security. The infection is only growing as they continue to share leadership. Could the union elect/nominate new leadership, or are they corrupt these days as well?

> I really wish Boeing defense got spun off, them being under the same leadership is a threat to national security.

Don't look at their board of directors unless you want to fully realize the magnitude of what you don't yet realize you're saying!

Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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Post by tarruda »

ixaxaar wrote: post #12

Oh so in Russia its jumping out a window and in the USA its some random method of suicide? Why not be specific, and consistent, like Russia?

With Yevgeny Prigozhin, the method was ingestion of surface-to-air missile: https://babylonbee.com/news/leader-of-failed-russian-uprisin...

Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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Post by whacko_quacko »

lostlogin wrote: post #204
whacko_quacko wrote: post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Very much like America, apparently. No. America isn't in the habit of regularily murdering dissidents

Is anyone refuting this? It’s hardly a wild claim.

Did you read the parent?

Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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Post by sebstefan »

max_ wrote: post #131

Reading the comments here is now making me even more skeptical about society. It really looks like; It is a waste of time to take risk yourself and expose unethical practices conducted by the powerful. Because, A) The masses don't really care (I expected riots and protest). B) You may mysteriously die. C) Your death instead of sparking an outrage will mostly be labeled a "conspiracy theory". Given these three items,…

> Due to majority of worker being spinless and complicit to corner cutting and other unethical practices.

I think companies that might end up doing that kind of stuff first off cultivate that culture. Either in their entire company, or with the people who are going to engage with criminal activities. Security people, upper management, ... Like in the ebay case linked above

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EBay_stalking_scandal#Stalking...

I'm not sure we can deduce that most employees of the corporate world are cynical and unethical from just individual cases like this

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