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'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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Post by steve_adams_86 »

zer00eyz wrote: post #89

Yea... SO if you really feel this way you say this to every reporter you see. You write it down and give it to your lawyer. Your wife. Your kids. You put copies in the safety deposit box. You give notarized copies to every 3rd homeless person you meet. You don't just tell one friend.

It depends a lot upon how certain he was of the risk. He might have said it to a friend as an expression of anxiety or fear, not recognizing how pressing the threat really was. A lingering worry might not motivate someone to be diligent about a post-assassination alibi.

Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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Post by latchkey »

lukan wrote: post #137
KingOfCoders wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I worked for an eBay Inc. company as an executive, never thought that could happen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EBay_stalking_scandal

Never heard of that before. What stands out to me is, that the executive person ordering it, Steve Wymer, was not charged at all, despite making very plain statements: "Wymer texted Baugh that Ina Steiner was a "biased troll who needs to be BURNED DOWN"; that he wanted "to see ashes"; and that Baugh should do "whatever it takes."" I would imagine the same will happen here(if it was murder). Some pawns get executed, w…

> Never heard of that before.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38959248

Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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Post by asah »

zer00eyz wrote: post #89

Yea... SO if you really feel this way you say this to every reporter you see. You write it down and give it to your lawyer. Your wife. Your kids. You put copies in the safety deposit box. You give notarized copies to every 3rd homeless person you meet. You don't just tell one friend.

Also, you record your testimony.

Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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Post by max_ »

kashunstva wrote: post #121
max_ wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you heavily under estimate what normal people motivated by money are capable of doing. In my friends highschool, some businesses guy was paying highschool kids (16 - 17 ish) to strangle car owners and steal their cars. They were later caught. Also, watch or read Killers of The Flowers Moon. The problem with planned murder is that it is all hidden, and the details are fuzzy. So there is alot of reasonable doub…

> normal people motivated by money… strangle car owners and steal their cars… Those are not in any way normal people. If someone makes it to 16-17 y/o without acquiring that fundamental moral lesson, I would not characterize them as normal, whatever the cause of that failure.

I think what I meant was that they "looked normal".

They were just attending classes like their class mates.

It's not like they had a horns on thier head or walked around with pitchforks that made them obviously seem like killers.

Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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Post by dylan604 »

Might be a good idea to make these kinds of statements in a more public manner on the socials. @ing the company your commenting against as well as any local police, FBI, or other pertinent TLAs. Let the opposition know they are no longer operating in the shadows. Of course the TLAs won't actively do anything about it proactively, but maybe it'll give more credence than the grieving friend's say-so later??? Have it in writing notarized, and on display in the video you post. This isn't a Grisham novel from the 90s. It's much easier to document things today.

Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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Post by reedf1 »

zer00eyz wrote: post #89

Yea... SO if you really feel this way you say this to every reporter you see. You write it down and give it to your lawyer. Your wife. Your kids. You put copies in the safety deposit box. You give notarized copies to every 3rd homeless person you meet. You don't just tell one friend.

I would think that you are implicitly stating your want to live by the fact you are alive.

Also - would all that really move the needle? Surely the only way is 24/7 surveillance. Even then I'm sure there are remote methods of execution that seem natural...

Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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Post by whacko_quacko »

pydry wrote: post #141
lostlogin wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> jumping out a window Or a poisoning with a ludicrously rare poison, a strange car crash, a plane falling out the sky, dying at a gulag when you were fine a few days earlier etc etc. It’s a very unsafe place when you don’t toe the line.

>It’s a very unsafe place when you don’t toe the line. Very much like America, apparently. The part where plenty of people express skepticism that theses death were really suspicious seems to be similar too.

> Very much like America, apparently.

No. America isn't in the habit of regularily murdering dissidents

Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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Post by drewcoo »

silisili wrote: post #4

This happens way too often, and I'm genuinely curious why. The easy answer is that paranoid people with a vendetta say exactly this to throw guilt onto the other party. The hard answer is harder to swallow. What can we do about it?

> This happens way too often, and I'm genuinely curious why.

It's probably what you're paying attention to.

There are lots of shocking occurrences that most people don't notice. Or don't want to notice. Death is among the things we'd rather not think about. Unseemly death more so.

Consider how many US military deaths are suicide every year.

https://dcas.dmdc.osd.mil/dcas/app/summaryData/deaths/byYear...

Or how many people are killed by police in the US every year.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_killings_by_law_enfor...

Or consider that suicides are more common than either firearm or car crash deaths.

https://deadorkicking.com/death-statistics/us/per-year/

Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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Post by 317070 »

carabiner wrote: post #100
michaelmrose wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Billions. Its annual profit not revenue is 7.7B a 10% decrease in revenue this decade is worth 7.7B and a 10% decrease in valuation is worth 11B

Yeah a single employee's testimony against an aircraft, the 787, that has safely flying every day since then, does not have that effect. Especially when all of that Barnett testified on years ago. Boeing does not make $7B from the 787. If you want to take someone out, make it a 737 MAX whistleblower.

They didn't know who was going to be the 737 MAX whistleblower. The whistleblower might not have known himself.

But the 737 MAX whistleblower was also taken out yesterday.

Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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Post by publius_0xf3 »

lukan wrote: post #137
KingOfCoders wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I worked for an eBay Inc. company as an executive, never thought that could happen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EBay_stalking_scandal

Never heard of that before. What stands out to me is, that the executive person ordering it, Steve Wymer, was not charged at all, despite making very plain statements: "Wymer texted Baugh that Ina Steiner was a "biased troll who needs to be BURNED DOWN"; that he wanted "to see ashes"; and that Baugh should do "whatever it takes."" I would imagine the same will happen here(if it was murder). Some pawns get executed, w…

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