Seems like a lot of effort to keep asocial drivers on the road. Why not just take their drivers license? Then move on to prison time if they keep driving.
Lawmakers propose 'speed limiters' for repeat offenders in New York
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#52Seems like a lot of effort to keep asocial drivers on the road. Why not just take their drivers license? Then move on to prison time if they keep driving.
I agree, except for the prison time part: NYC’s prisons are more or less torture sites[1], and we really don’t need to send more people to be tortured. Driving a car is a privilege that can and should be rescinded, especially in a city where so many alternatives exist. [1]: https://apnews.com/article/rikers-island-new-york-city-006c6...
We should probably either consider driving to be a bit more than a revocable privilege or improve alternative transport options (or consider right to food, shelter, and healthcare human rights).
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Or 11 points, which is basically going 25 mph over twice in 18 months.
25mph over is bonkers. Doing that twice in a one and a half year should definitely have heavy consequences.
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#55This is not technically possible… vehicles differ enough that it would require a one off engineered solution for each individual vehicle. Especially older mechanically injected diesels or carburetor gasoline engines which have no electronic engine controls- a a speed limiting device would need to mechanically intercept the throttle linkage, which is designed and attached differently on every vehicle. Moreover, GPS te…
Then these vehicles will be banned as not compatible to the new law.
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#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
Then what do you do if they keep driving after you take the licence?
Impound their vehicle?
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#57Seems like a lot of effort to keep asocial drivers on the road. Why not just take their drivers license? Then move on to prison time if they keep driving.
I looked up the license plate of a car that hit me and saw 18 speeding violations, 4 school bus violations, 1 red light violations over the past six years. In the year before it hit me, there were 8 speeding violations. [1]
[0] https://dmv.ny.gov/tickets/about-nys-driver-point-system
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If they have that much disregard for the law, do you think losing their license will keep them off the road? Doubtful.
Then put them in jail for driving without a license.
I'm not saying, at all, that we should let them run amok. But at the same time, the US has a ridiculous incarceration rate as it is, and it's not like we've created a utopia by doing that.
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#60Seems like a lot of effort to keep asocial drivers on the road. Why not just take their drivers license? Then move on to prison time if they keep driving.
I agree, except for the prison time part: NYC’s prisons are more or less torture sites[1], and we really don’t need to send more people to be tortured. Driving a car is a privilege that can and should be rescinded, especially in a city where so many alternatives exist. [1]: https://apnews.com/article/rikers-island-new-york-city-006c6...
...especially in a city where so many alternatives exist.
For what it's worth, this proposal affects the state, not the city. The state with regions where it's not abnormal to get 6+ feet of snow per year.I don't disagree with the sentiment, just pointing out that it's a bit more complex than telling people to use alternate transportation.