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Lawmakers propose 'speed limiters' for repeat offenders in New York

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Re: Lawmakers propose 'speed limiters' for repeat offenders in New York

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Post by edgyquant »

steanne wrote: post #10
woodruffw wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree that it’s technically complicated, but I don’t understand what you mean by dangerous in an emergency situation: nobody besides emergency services should really be speeding on NYC streets to begin with, and this seems strictly more accommodating than just taking these drivers’ licenses away (which is well precedented).

not everyone who is rushed to the emergency room arrives in an ambulance.

Speeding in a normal car means you may get pulled over and that will increase the time getting there.

Re: Lawmakers propose 'speed limiters' for repeat offenders in New York

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Post by woodruffw »

steanne wrote: post #10
woodruffw wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree that it’s technically complicated, but I don’t understand what you mean by dangerous in an emergency situation: nobody besides emergency services should really be speeding on NYC streets to begin with, and this seems strictly more accommodating than just taking these drivers’ licenses away (which is well precedented).

not everyone who is rushed to the emergency room arrives in an ambulance.

The US has no concept of “speeding in an emergency” for ordinary drivers. It’s illegal regardless: we allow emergency services to speed because they’re (nominally) qualified to.

And note: we’re talking about a city with extraordinary EMS and urgent care density. I don’t buy the argument that we need to allow repeat offenders on the road regardless, but especially not in NYC.

Re: Lawmakers propose 'speed limiters' for repeat offenders in New York

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Post by bluGill »

chpatrick wrote: post #2

That seems dangerous in an emergency situation and technically complicated to implement. They should fine people proportionately to their wealth instead like in Germany.

If you need to go faster than the legal speed limit you need proper sirens and flashing lights, along with more training than most drivers have. Call 911 and they will get someone to you.

Re: Lawmakers propose 'speed limiters' for repeat offenders in New York

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Post by woodruffw »

tokai wrote: post #3

Seems like a lot of effort to keep asocial drivers on the road. Why not just take their drivers license? Then move on to prison time if they keep driving.

I agree, except for the prison time part: NYC’s prisons are more or less torture sites[1], and we really don’t need to send more people to be tortured.

Driving a car is a privilege that can and should be rescinded, especially in a city where so many alternatives exist.

[1]: https://apnews.com/article/rikers-island-new-york-city-006c6...

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Post by sebzim4500 »

woodruffw wrote: post #14
tokai wrote: post #3

Seems like a lot of effort to keep asocial drivers on the road. Why not just take their drivers license? Then move on to prison time if they keep driving.

I agree, except for the prison time part: NYC’s prisons are more or less torture sites[1], and we really don’t need to send more people to be tortured. Driving a car is a privilege that can and should be rescinded, especially in a city where so many alternatives exist. [1]: https://apnews.com/article/rikers-island-new-york-city-006c6...

Then what do you do if they keep driving after you take the licence?

Re: Lawmakers propose 'speed limiters' for repeat offenders in New York

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Post by bluGill »

edgyquant wrote: post #11
steanne wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

not everyone who is rushed to the emergency room arrives in an ambulance.

Speeding in a normal car means you may get pulled over and that will increase the time getting there.

If it is really an emergency you should have already called 911. Maybe the dispatcher says drive as fast as you can cause we cannot get an ambulance to you - but in that case you stay on the phone. The dispatcher talking to you is also on radio with police and the flashing lights are your escort as the dispatcher will tell you.

But the above is something that I doubt will actually happen - ambulances are generally close.

Re: Lawmakers propose 'speed limiters' for repeat offenders in New York

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Post by ethanbond »

TheCoelacanth wrote: post #4

For six tickets in a year?! Just take away their license.

And their car/whatever car they were driving.

A lot of these types of people are fine driving without licenses, but if they’re without a car and no one will loan them one, that might work.

Re: Lawmakers propose 'speed limiters' for repeat offenders in New York

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Post by aitchnyu »

throw__away7391 wrote: post #9

I’m on board. And while we are on the subject how about restricting the horn from working inside city limits. I have had the idea for a while that your car horn could be programmed to just get quieter and quieter the more you use it, perhaps gradually shifting pitch to sound a bit silly as well.

One manufacturer released a report of horn usage time in various countries. If its already integrated into the electronics, it should play back the same sound into cabin if its overused, also stopping music and AC. Yes I hate carmakers heaping features, but horn use of fellow Indians are infuriating.

Re: Lawmakers propose 'speed limiters' for repeat offenders in New York

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Post by analog31 »

pjc50 wrote: post #5
tokai wrote: post #3

Seems like a lot of effort to keep asocial drivers on the road. Why not just take their drivers license? Then move on to prison time if they keep driving.

> six speeding tickets and red-light camera violations, or four speed camera or red-light violations, in a year That does sound like people who are completely oblivious to the law.

Maybe they have courtesy cards from the police.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/v7gxa4/pba-card-police-court...

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