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Lawmakers propose 'speed limiters' for repeat offenders in New York

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Re: Lawmakers propose 'speed limiters' for repeat offenders in New York

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Post by woodruffw »

logicalmonster wrote: post #23

Not a huge fan of this. The really dangerous drivers in New York aren't dangerous because they're speeding. They're really dangerous because they weave in and out of tightly packed traffic trying to find a minuscule gap to wedge themselves into to try and go around everybody. If anything, being unable to go fast is going to psychologically compel impatient people to take even more risks to make up for time they'll be…

This is NYC; ideally all of the drivers would be “slow-pokes” on city streets. I don’t think we even have passing lanes in the city, besides highways.

Re: Lawmakers propose 'speed limiters' for repeat offenders in New York

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Post by tokai »

zeteo wrote: post #34
tokai wrote: post #3

Seems like a lot of effort to keep asocial drivers on the road. Why not just take their drivers license? Then move on to prison time if they keep driving.

Yes and while you're at it why not make all prison sentences for life?! That would definitely keep even more asocial people off a lot of roads... But seriously, what happened to that quaint old concept that "the punishment should fit the crime"? In a country where public transport sucks, losing your driver's license is a rather small step up from house arrest. And 11 points in NY, which is how most people would run a…

Dangerous driving is a violent crime, with potentially deadly outcome. The punishment should be harsh for repeat offenders. Its not a crime your socioeconomic circumstances made you do, its very easy to just drive within the speed limit. Tough punishment for crimes usually done by the middle-class do often seem harsh for people, even though its not really harsh compared to many other actual victimless crimes.

Re: Lawmakers propose 'speed limiters' for repeat offenders in New York

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Post by NoZebra120vClip »

_yb2s wrote: post #37

This is not technically possible… vehicles differ enough that it would require a one off engineered solution for each individual vehicle. Especially older mechanically injected diesels or carburetor gasoline engines which have no electronic engine controls- a a speed limiting device would need to mechanically intercept the throttle linkage, which is designed and attached differently on every vehicle. Moreover, GPS te…

But, There Oughta Be A Law!!1

Re: Lawmakers propose 'speed limiters' for repeat offenders in New York

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Post by lnsru »

_yb2s wrote: post #37

This is not technically possible… vehicles differ enough that it would require a one off engineered solution for each individual vehicle. Especially older mechanically injected diesels or carburetor gasoline engines which have no electronic engine controls- a a speed limiting device would need to mechanically intercept the throttle linkage, which is designed and attached differently on every vehicle. Moreover, GPS te…

Then these vehicles will be banned as not compatible to the new law.

Re: Lawmakers propose 'speed limiters' for repeat offenders in New York

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Post by tokai »

zeteo wrote: post #39
pjc50 wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> six speeding tickets and red-light camera violations, or four speed camera or red-light violations, in a year That does sound like people who are completely oblivious to the law.

Or 11 points, which is basically going 25 mph over twice in 18 months.

25mph over is bonkers. Doing that twice in a one and a half year should definitely have heavy consequences.

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dmalvarado wrote: post #24
throw__away7391 wrote: post #9

I’m on board. And while we are on the subject how about restricting the horn from working inside city limits. I have had the idea for a while that your car horn could be programmed to just get quieter and quieter the more you use it, perhaps gradually shifting pitch to sound a bit silly as well.

I often wish vehicles were equipped with a regular horn and a "polite" horn. As in "don't mean to be a bother, but the light is green now. Whenever you're done checking your phone is fine."

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Re: Lawmakers propose 'speed limiters' for repeat offenders in New York

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Post by lylejantzi3rd »

woodruffw wrote: post #14
tokai wrote: post #3

Seems like a lot of effort to keep asocial drivers on the road. Why not just take their drivers license? Then move on to prison time if they keep driving.

I agree, except for the prison time part: NYC’s prisons are more or less torture sites[1], and we really don’t need to send more people to be tortured. Driving a car is a privilege that can and should be rescinded, especially in a city where so many alternatives exist. [1]: https://apnews.com/article/rikers-island-new-york-city-006c6...

This is your daily reminder that the proposed law is a New York State law, not just an NYC law. It would apply much wider than just NYC.

Re: Lawmakers propose 'speed limiters' for repeat offenders in New York

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Post by NoZebra120vClip »

dmalvarado wrote: post #24
throw__away7391 wrote: post #9

I’m on board. And while we are on the subject how about restricting the horn from working inside city limits. I have had the idea for a while that your car horn could be programmed to just get quieter and quieter the more you use it, perhaps gradually shifting pitch to sound a bit silly as well.

I often wish vehicles were equipped with a regular horn and a "polite" horn. As in "don't mean to be a bother, but the light is green now. Whenever you're done checking your phone is fine."

I would like a polite horn so I can use it ironically.

I love these e-Scooters with their twee little mechanical bicycle bell that sometimes works. I induced some heavy duty road rage in a motorcyclist by ringing his bell.

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