Earlier quoted context omitted.
I agree, except for the prison time part: NYC’s prisons are more or less torture sites[1], and we really don’t need to send more people to be tortured. Driving a car is a privilege that can and should be rescinded, especially in a city where so many alternatives exist. [1]: https://apnews.com/article/rikers-island-new-york-city-006c6...
Then what do you do if they keep driving after you take the licence?
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#22Seems like a lot of effort to keep asocial drivers on the road. Why not just take their drivers license? Then move on to prison time if they keep driving.
I agree, except for the prison time part: NYC’s prisons are more or less torture sites[1], and we really don’t need to send more people to be tortured. Driving a car is a privilege that can and should be rescinded, especially in a city where so many alternatives exist. [1]: https://apnews.com/article/rikers-island-new-york-city-006c6...
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#23The really dangerous drivers in New York aren't dangerous because they're speeding.
They're really dangerous because they weave in and out of tightly packed traffic trying to find a minuscule gap to wedge themselves into to try and go around everybody.
If anything, being unable to go fast is going to psychologically compel impatient people to take even more risks to make up for time they'll be perceiving themselves as losing due to being limited in speed. Additionally, limiting their car's speed is going to make this process even more dangerous for bystanders because they're not going to have the power available to actually perform these maneuvers.
If you want to focus on public safety, figure out a way to get slow-pokes out of the passing lane who camp there next to a truck for an hour and clump up traffic, and get cops to focus on drivers who wildly weave from lane to lane with no signals.
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#24I’m on board. And while we are on the subject how about restricting the horn from working inside city limits. I have had the idea for a while that your car horn could be programmed to just get quieter and quieter the more you use it, perhaps gradually shifting pitch to sound a bit silly as well.
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#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
not everyone who is rushed to the emergency room arrives in an ambulance.
The US has no concept of “speeding in an emergency” for ordinary drivers. It’s illegal regardless: we allow emergency services to speed because they’re (nominally) qualified to. And note: we’re talking about a city with extraordinary EMS and urgent care density. I don’t buy the argument that we need to allow repeat offenders on the road regardless, but especially not in NYC.
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#27That seems dangerous in an emergency situation and technically complicated to implement. They should fine people proportionately to their wealth instead like in Germany.
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
I agree, except for the prison time part: NYC’s prisons are more or less torture sites[1], and we really don’t need to send more people to be tortured. Driving a car is a privilege that can and should be rescinded, especially in a city where so many alternatives exist. [1]: https://apnews.com/article/rikers-island-new-york-city-006c6...
Your modification of tokai's suggestion reverts it to what we have now, and that is not working very well.
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#29Seems like a lot of effort to keep asocial drivers on the road. Why not just take their drivers license? Then move on to prison time if they keep driving.
I agree, except for the prison time part: NYC’s prisons are more or less torture sites[1], and we really don’t need to send more people to be tortured. Driving a car is a privilege that can and should be rescinded, especially in a city where so many alternatives exist. [1]: https://apnews.com/article/rikers-island-new-york-city-006c6...
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#30Seems like a lot of effort to keep asocial drivers on the road. Why not just take their drivers license? Then move on to prison time if they keep driving.
It's gonna be unpopular, but maybe they need to see a couple days on a weekend behind bars as a sobering reminder.