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A lot of “US vs Europe” in the comments. The focus ought to be to provide great services rather than just “it’s built here and not there”. I use Hetzner over other providers because it’s dead simple to create and delete VMs and the prices are competitive … and yes it’s a European company. The EU flag alone is not enough - Stable services, great UX and second to none support is the alternative that the market has been…
A lot of “US vs Europe” in the comments I think the previous administration spooked Europe and made it clear that the USA is an unreliable partner.
I think there’s an opportunity for an IkeaCloud or AldiCloud that is just barebones and cheap but still is a proper cloud. Given that Microsoft and google are struggling to match aws it seems we’re still decades away from someone truly being able to deliver the same features, scale, and reliability.
"LidlCloud" is a thing... https://www.stackit.de/en/
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It's something most Americans don't appreciate. Half of Europe suffered under or from a totalitarian regime not that long ago and set up their respective barriers. Some people give it lip service in America for political points but they don't understand it on a fundamental level - most of them would turn around and complain about why google street view doesn't work in Germany. I say this as someone who has bounced ar…
> Half of Europe suffered under or from a totalitarian regime not that long ago and set up their respective barriers. Meanwhile Denmark: “It’s time to fill out your yearly tax declaration! Actually, you don’t have to bother! We already pulled your data from EVERYWHERE…”.
Still you need to put in everything again, each year.
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> The Europeans did it by requiring companies to abide by their new law or pay out fines(basically a quasitax) This works only because EU is a relatively big and wealthy economy. If, say, Chile or Botswana tried to do the same, US companies would be like “lol, bye”. If, or when the Europe becomes just as poor as these relative to US, the incentive for US companies to stay in Europe and pay these ridiculous fines, wil…
>stay poor Have californians started thinking of Europe as poor?
A lot of “US vs Europe” in the comments. The focus ought to be to provide great services rather than just “it’s built here and not there”. I use Hetzner over other providers because it’s dead simple to create and delete VMs and the prices are competitive … and yes it’s a European company. The EU flag alone is not enough - Stable services, great UX and second to none support is the alternative that the market has been…
I just don't think most of these people grasp how complex it's going to be. None of the existing EU hosting providers have succeeded in providing even a small subset of the services AWS provides. You also just can start out with an S3, SQS and EC2 clone anymore, customers expect more features from day one.
Bootstrapping an new cloud provider is going to cost and insane amount of money and billions of Euros, all of which may be wasted if the EU and US can reach an agreement on data processing.
As an example, look at Google, they have the money, the people and the technology, and they are having a hard time competing with AWS and Azure.
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The big problem is IT in Europe just doesn’t pay very well. It beats a blue collar job, but anyone truly good has the option to emigrate for 2-3x more money.
Moving away from your established life, friends, family to a country where you will (at least initially) be foreign, where the lifestyle is different are burdens that should not be underestimated. I'm sure everybody in the EU would like US level salaries, but most wouldn't move for the money alone
In all other countries you'll always be a foreigner (your kids will be local though).
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Europe makes for the largest, wealthiest single market in the world, the world's biggest importer and the world's biggest exporter. There's a lot of power in that.
not even close. USA GDP: $26.8 trillion EU GDP: $17.1 trillion
There's a massive impoverished underclass in the US, who are not going to be able to drive much consumption.
GDP is an incredibly reductive measure.