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Well, yeah, that's what evroc is aiming to be.
China has literally AWS, though, not just something similar. All the same services, just with a CCP official looking over your shoulder and a Chinese company operating it.
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a beautiful retirement home is still a retirement home. you either grow your own economy or become a vassal to someone else who does. if europe keeps stagnating and america keeps posting 4% gdp growth, a day will come when the EU can pass as many laws as they like and it won't matter. it'll be like some shitpoor latin american country against united fruit.
"economy" is a meme - both china and the EU realized that this anglo-american system has its weaknesses which can be exploited The Chinese did it by just taking all the IP they could get as a requirement to sell in their nation The Europeans did it by requiring companies to abide by their new law or pay out fines(basically a quasitax) The capitalistic system is an addict to access to markets. Governments setup their…
This works only because EU is a relatively big and wealthy economy. If, say, Chile or Botswana tried to do the same, US companies would be like “lol, bye”. If, or when the Europe becomes just as poor as these relative to US, the incentive for US companies to stay in Europe and pay these ridiculous fines, will simply not be there, and so they will leave.
Thus, if Europe’s strategy is to impose more and more strict regulations and taxes on US companies, it must return to growing in wealth in power. Otherwise, this strategy will backfire: not only Europe will stay poor, but also the highly productive companies will exit it.
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"economy" is a meme - both china and the EU realized that this anglo-american system has its weaknesses which can be exploited The Chinese did it by just taking all the IP they could get as a requirement to sell in their nation The Europeans did it by requiring companies to abide by their new law or pay out fines(basically a quasitax) The capitalistic system is an addict to access to markets. Governments setup their…
china is the world's factory, arabs have oil. what does europe make? the way things are going, there will eventually be an american company with a market cap greater than the GDP of France or Germany. at that point, they'll be making the real rules.
There's a lot of power in that.
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A lot of european companies would. You’d be surprised how often saas clients told me to _never_ allow client data to get anywhere near a us company. People around europe are very privacy aware.
It's something most Americans don't appreciate. Half of Europe suffered under or from a totalitarian regime not that long ago and set up their respective barriers. Some people give it lip service in America for political points but they don't understand it on a fundamental level - most of them would turn around and complain about why google street view doesn't work in Germany. I say this as someone who has bounced ar…
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Neither are even remotely close to competing with AWS, GCP or Azure in terms of features though, they are more server providers than anything else. And OVH is a dumpster fire.
Which in itself is a massive selling feature. Deploying a simple app on AWS is about as straight forward as deploying Active Directory in the early 2000s. It is so bad Amazon even launched the Lightsail product line to address the problem. AWS now is basically "you don't know how to run a database, or a KV store, or a network, etc. so here it all is as an API with a markup." Some companies still have talent that know…
The thing is that when you will need to leverage the other services of AWS, they will be there, while you will need to migrate if you're on one of those server providers.
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china is the world's factory, arabs have oil. what does europe make? the way things are going, there will eventually be an american company with a market cap greater than the GDP of France or Germany. at that point, they'll be making the real rules.
Europe makes for the largest, wealthiest single market in the world, the world's biggest importer and the world's biggest exporter. There's a lot of power in that.
USA GDP: $26.8 trillion
EU GDP: $17.1 trillion
Would never use a cloud service simply because "its European", it's got to be better and cheaper than AWS.
I wonder what kind of talent they will be able to hire, paying the usual European taxed peanuts.
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China has literally AWS, though, not just something similar. All the same services, just with a CCP official looking over your shoulder and a Chinese company operating it.
Not really all the same services.. there is a ton of them missing in CN AWS. It is like few years behind..
Has "Europe is investing $X billions to rival $AMERICAN_TECH_GIANT" ever worked? I'm highly skeptical of planned enterprises. Inovation often happens organically.
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"economy" is a meme - both china and the EU realized that this anglo-american system has its weaknesses which can be exploited The Chinese did it by just taking all the IP they could get as a requirement to sell in their nation The Europeans did it by requiring companies to abide by their new law or pay out fines(basically a quasitax) The capitalistic system is an addict to access to markets. Governments setup their…
> The Europeans did it by requiring companies to abide by their new law or pay out fines(basically a quasitax) This works only because EU is a relatively big and wealthy economy. If, say, Chile or Botswana tried to do the same, US companies would be like “lol, bye”. If, or when the Europe becomes just as poor as these relative to US, the incentive for US companies to stay in Europe and pay these ridiculous fines, wil…
Have californians started thinking of Europe as poor?