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Ozempic drug supresses desire to smoke, drink and more?

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Re: Ozempic drug supresses desire to smoke, drink and more?

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Post by paulpauper »

olegious wrote: post #278

Just a heads up “weight loss” is a poor metric if it comes at the cost of lean muscle mass. It seems that 39% of weight loss associated with Ozempic comes from lean muscle mass which isn’t great. https://peterattiamd.com/the-downside-of-glp-1-receptor-agon...

Though a certain amount of lean loss is inevitable with significant weight reduction (usually about 25% of total weight loss), the goal is to increase the body’s overall proportion of lean mass – in other words, to improve body composition.

lean loss does not mean muscle loss

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Post by y-curious »

frankthedog wrote: post #274
LazyMans wrote: post #168

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Society makes it hard as well. It’s unacceptable to be falling asleep high on opiates. Hitting a vape on a video call with coworkers is considerably more acceptable.

As a fully remote employee for years who now lives in zoom I have never seen a coworker hit a vape on a call and it would be very off putting if they did, in the same way smoking a cig while on a call would be. Context: work at a big tech co.

I've seen coworkers do it accidentally, forgetting their cameras are on. It's a super hard habit to quit, too, since it's innocuous (except you can't leave home without your vape!).

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Post by y-curious »

tonyarkles wrote: post #115
raducu wrote: post #46

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> The first days, weeks and months are often the hardest time when quitting a substance. If this drug helps a smoker not smoke for 3 months, by that time the nicotine addiction has weakened considerably. I love(d) nicotine and it was the only substance that I ever was addicted to. I tried dozens of times to quit and the only thing that helped was getting treatment for my ADHD. Quitting nicotine was easy for me on met…

>I only tried combining them and nearly went to the ER Could you elaborate on that? I'm currently still a smoker (working on it...) and on Concerta. Your note alarms me :)

Not the person you're replying to, but what helped me quit was the book "How to stop smoking" by Alan Carr. Highly recommend working through it and taking his point about cold turkey in good faith. Good luck!

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Post by hombre_fatal »

olegious wrote: post #278

Just a heads up “weight loss” is a poor metric if it comes at the cost of lean muscle mass. It seems that 39% of weight loss associated with Ozempic comes from lean muscle mass which isn’t great. https://peterattiamd.com/the-downside-of-glp-1-receptor-agon...

There's no shortage of people debunking that charlatan.

https://twitter.com/MichaelAlbertMD/status/16470364172503040...

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Post by hombre_fatal »

trasz4 wrote: post #27
mym1990 wrote: post #5

A drug that promotes weight loss, lessens the desire to smoke, drink, etc...sounds too good to be true? From what I have heard, all of these issues come back as soon as someone comes off the drug. So either a person is committing to a lifetime of being dependent on this drug, or a person is committing to some period of time of ideal living, followed by a possible time of depression after reverting to the status quo.

>From what I have heard, all of these issues come back as soon as someone comes off the drug Same as with drugs for hypertension, depression, hyperglycemia and many, many others. Not every drug is supposed to somehow permanently cure you.

The same could be said even for interventions like "don't eat surplus calories" and "life weights". Once you stop, you don't get the benefits and you'll regress.

"But you have to do it forever" shouldn't be a convincing dismissal after 10 seconds of thought.

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Post by runsWphotons »

mgarfias wrote: post #139
cameronh90 wrote: post #119

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As a counterpoint, I've been using it for several months and have had no side effects to speak of other than occasionally some mild reflux. If anything, my energy levels actually went up immediately after starting it. Normally I was pretty sluggish but it felt like some extra firepower was unlocked. Everything has risks and benefits, and might harm some people. I hope your family member gets better soon.

I’ve been on it (at 1mg, then 2mg doses) for 3-4 years now. Worst side effect for me is the tendency to have sulfur smelling burps if I have any kind of stomach upset.

Second the question about tolerance! Wondering why this doesnt happen it is interesting. Most everything else causes some tolerance over time but no one mentions it for this

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Post by hombre_fatal »

PostOnce wrote: post #203

Exercise is free and the side effects are you get stronger, more energetic, and better looking. Ozempic costs money and its side effects include cancer, kidney failure, and ruining your eyes. https://www.ozempic.com/faqs.html edit: many point out calorie intake is the real problem, it's true: buy a kitchen scale, weigh your food, count your calories, and you will lose weight. Exercise is optional compared to that. St…

You did it. You solved obesity.

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Post by [deleted] »

Aloha wrote: post #267
mrcrumb1 wrote: post #188

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I'm a person who has vacillated between being close to normal weight and obese. I think people who don't have problems controlling their diet tend to underestimate just how hard it can be to eat at a calorie deficit or even just maintenance when you've lost a large amount of weight. When I'm at my lowest weight I literally am thinking about food constantly and my maintenance calorie intake drops to about 1500-1800 ca…

It's really hard to explain to someone the agony of being hungry all the time - without experiencing it, they just cant understand.

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Post by usernew »

vore wrote: post #276
usernew wrote: post #258

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If you're interested - not pushing an agenda. Here's what worked for this weird dude to not drink and stay fit. I used to lift and be real fit till about 40. Like bulky-lean looking, bench 400 10x with a 6pack. Had a lot to do with being on the road for work all over the world, and you sit at the gym at the hotel for an hour every night because of nothing else to do, and there are girls there also on business who you…

This is such a "one weird trick your doctor doesn't want you to know!" anecdote. Mounjaro and Ozempic are generally prescribed in instances where dietary interventions are insufficient and perhaps one of the last resorts before bariatric surgery. If your dietary interventions worked for you -- great! But there is only a certain class of people for which they work for, and it is rude to assume the OP hasn't tried thes…

and... this person now takes these last-measure pills forever? or here in the real world, do they use the pills to lose weight, and then maintain that normal weight forever with... perhaps a diet trick that works?

people who have to take last-measure medication usually don't stop eating when they are full. i know, it's weird to tell someone who doesn't stop eating when they're full, how to still maintain weight if they... don't stop eating when they're full. i'm a weird guy with ADD and get side-tracked easily. I got an appointment with the florist about that next week, hopefully he can recommend a medication.

yes, a doctor will not tell you diet tricks. if you are asking your doctor for diet tricks, we need to step back a minute. when you're done grocery shopping at jiffy lube, drive home, sit down, and carefully read this link.

this is what a doctor is. a doctor will give you general health guidelines, but knows very little about diets. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physician

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Post by runsWphotons »

LazyMans wrote: post #167
Waterluvian wrote: post #163

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Don’t forget caffeine!

I like caffeine, unfortunately even small amounts tend to make me irritable and sick at the end of the day. Wasn’t always like that

What changed and when?
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