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Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by eliseomartelli »

wilsonnb3 wrote: post #93
Curzel wrote: post #38

I don't get it. People have been wondering when this would happen since the very first iPad Pro, so lots of people will be happy now... Even assuming all the required horse power is there, I still don't get it... Maybe I'm getting old.

There are a few reasons that I am excited for this, none of which have to do with actually using logic pro or final cut on an ipad. 1. This is an excellent signal that iPads can get "real" software now, hopefully more companies start porting their desktop mac software to iPadOS 2. Apple will continute to keep MacOS and iPadOS separate rather than trying to combine them like a lot of people on the internet think they…

I'm really excited for point 3.

I really wish iOS opens up to accept a real terminal.

I know iSH exists but it runs using usermode x86 emulation.

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by toyg »

dagmx wrote: post #11

Having a full DAW on the go is a killer feature imho. The promise has been there since stuff like 8tracks on the iPhone 3G, and various Audio Units already on iOS. But I’ve always found the workflow very limiting or clunky. (Edit: I’m a Logic Pro user on macOS so my comments reflect getting things into that specifically) The divide from putting down an idea when it hits, to working it into something, has always been…

The iPad is not an entry point to the ecosystem; the difference with Macs in terms of modality of use is too stark.

The Macs are simply meant to eventually go away. From the perspective of Apple, they are a legacy coccyx. For them the iPad, where nothing is replaceable and Apple is in full control of content distribution, is the superior form of computing.

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by mvanbaak »

smoldesu wrote: post #111
mvanbaak wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is not a laptop replacement. And apple does not design it to be one. It's a very nice device to have next to your Mac Studio / Mac Pro to do your work while not at your desk. The creative possibilities of the iPad are spectacular. The ease of maintaining one is 100x bigger than a notebook. it's simply another type of device, not a replacement.

> It's a very nice device to have next to your Mac Studio / Mac Pro to do your work while not at your desk. I'm kinda curious - what does it do that my laptop can't? Am I missing out on anything by bringing a full computer with me when I have to work? I've got an iPad (an older one) and it's just about completely useless for me. It doesn't support my file syncing app, it insists on using it's own file formats, it doe…

I can only respond based on my experience.

1. Personally, an iPad for me is just another nice gadget. I'm a developer and I want my MacBook 2. The iPad has a lot of things less technical people prefer over a notebook: 2.1 - easy of / lack of - maintenance. It just works, you click the home button and it works, things are simply there 2.2 - battery life. iPad wins hands down from all other alternatives 2.3 - pencil. both for creative work as for boring office work and signing contracts 2.4 - games for the kids/pets. Roadtrip? waiting for the doctors appointment? anything? give them the iPad and have them kill time with $random thing 2.5 - support. No matter what the problem is, walk into an Apple Store and have it fixed. (I know some parts of the world have different service, but at least here in .nl its perfect)

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by hammyhavoc »

xattt wrote: post #117
Audiophilip wrote: post #108

Now I just wish iPads would have an audio jack so that I could plug in my headphone while using Logic.

Echoing other comments explaining why this release is a good development … If you need headphones or a speaker to hear sounds you create, you are not the target demographic.

... surely most people will be using an audio interface anyway?

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by scarecrowbob »

tigeroil wrote: post #68
Kognito wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interesting change, I do wonder if the Mac apps will follow suit.

My guess, based on the fact that Logic Pro and FCP, in the nicest way I can say this, haven't had any meaningful core upgrades in a while, is that they're planning some fairly major updates on macOS for both and the plan is to release them as new, subscription-only versions later this year.

Well, for a $200 app that was feature complete when I bought it, I am not at all sure what I'd want them to do with it. It'd be a really hard sell to go from almost a decade of "free and professional" to a subscription model- I'd much rather have them just keep maintaining the software exactly as is so I can use it when I buy my next MBP in 2026.

So I am a bit skeptical that your prediction is accurate. But I can't tell the future and I don't know folks at Apple so maybe you know something I don't.

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by hammyhavoc »

whywhywhywhy wrote: post #149

As the years go by, the entirely different OS for tablets vs laptops which at first seemed like the only route to get a quality experience seems like a huge misstep now the tablets all have keyboards and trackpads stuck to them when used for work.

We made a worse laptop.

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by speedgoose »

pdpi wrote: post #34
meghan_rain wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Having a full DAW on the go is a killer feature imho. Macbook?

Current-gen 12" iPad Pro is 1.5 lbs to the MacBook Air's 2.7 lbs. That's a considerable weight difference still.

682g and 1240g.

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by giobox »

LegitShady wrote: post #183
dagmx wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess I should expand why not a laptop, but it boils down to removing lots of little friction points that make ephemeral ideas harder to put down. 1. Touch first is important because your instruments are touch as well. Being able to record my live instruments and not have to switch to a trackpad to move between UI elements seems small, but it really keeps me in the zone. 2. Same point above, but basically being abl…

I think there is a lot going for the music ecosystem on ipad - lots of affordable apps, cheap effects compared to desktop etc. At the same time I don't think the device itself is built with the connectivity for the kind of music making I think about. If all your synths and effects live on the iPad and you don't care about after touch maybe, but if you want to hook external gear up the iPad just isn't made for it. no…

I agree to a large extent, but I've been pleasantly surprised just how much audio hardware works using a USB hub, especially now all iPads have USB-C ports with the exception of the 10.2 inch entry one.

Given how many USB accessories now work with the iPad, I really really wish Apple would relent and at least give us two USB ports on the side like the MacBook Air.

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by dkdbejwi383 »

anaganisk wrote: post #173
g105b wrote: post #150

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Yes. The software will not receive updates forever. The Ipad will not receive updates forever. One day, this software will force the user to buy more Apple devices to continue using it.

Don't u just end the subscription at that point? What am I missing.

Well, I can still use my old polycarbonate MacBook from 2008 with the old version of Aperture I bought indefinitely, at least until the hardware breaks and is no longer repairable.

If Apple decides to stop supporting the subscription based Logic Pro, I'd no longer be able to continue using it.

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