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Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by smoldesu »

mvanbaak wrote: post #23
mattwad wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

True but it's not very good as a laptop replacement. It's much more expensive than an Air and can't run the same apps. While doing my research it seemed a lot of people either already had a laptop or preferred to have a laptop if they had to pick one. This is coming from a Surface 5 user - I gave up eventually because it was never powerful enough, but it is a much better approach to multi-input laptop replacement sin…

It is not a laptop replacement. And apple does not design it to be one. It's a very nice device to have next to your Mac Studio / Mac Pro to do your work while not at your desk. The creative possibilities of the iPad are spectacular. The ease of maintaining one is 100x bigger than a notebook. it's simply another type of device, not a replacement.

> It's a very nice device to have next to your Mac Studio / Mac Pro to do your work while not at your desk.

I'm kinda curious - what does it do that my laptop can't? Am I missing out on anything by bringing a full computer with me when I have to work?

I've got an iPad (an older one) and it's just about completely useless for me. It doesn't support my file syncing app, it insists on using it's own file formats, it doesn't trust me to install apps and doesn't have enough builtin IO to charge and use a mouse at the same time. Lugging around a second Mac seems like a much more seamless experience to me.

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by reaperducer »

carlosjobim wrote: post #72
oger wrote: post #54

Interesting: Apple is moving their apps to a subscription model. „ Pricing and Availability Starting Tuesday, May 23, Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro for iPad will each be available on the App Store for $4.99 (US) per month or $49 (US) per year with a one-month free trial.8 Final Cut Pro is compatible with M1 chip iPad models or later, and Logic Pro will be available on A12 Bionic chip iPad models or later. Final Cut Pro…

People are broke and too undisciplined to save up even a little money, so normal software prices look huge in their eyes. That's why subscriptions and splitting a purchase is coming to everything now. It won't take long before the cashier in your local supermarket will ask you if you want to pay everything at once or divide after ringing up your stuff.

It won't take long before the cashier in your local supermarket will ask you if you want to pay everything at once or divide after ringing up your stuff.

You mean like with a credit card?

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by Kerrick »

kotaKat wrote: post #60
oger wrote: post #54

Interesting: Apple is moving their apps to a subscription model. „ Pricing and Availability Starting Tuesday, May 23, Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro for iPad will each be available on the App Store for $4.99 (US) per month or $49 (US) per year with a one-month free trial.8 Final Cut Pro is compatible with M1 chip iPad models or later, and Logic Pro will be available on A12 Bionic chip iPad models or later. Final Cut Pro…

It'd be interesting to see them modify their Apple One tiers. Split out Premier to a "Premier home" tier (keeping News+ and Fitness+) and a "Pro" tier at the same price that gives you 4TB of iCloud Drive + Logic and Final Cut instead of the 2TB/News/Fitness option.

I'm not certain, but I think Apple including video editing software in a subscription called "Premier Pro" might anger Adobe's lawyers.

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by jahnu »

jscheel wrote: post #105
jahnu wrote: post #49

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As developers of professional audio plugins this is very exciting for us. The horsepower is there and the touch interface allows for some really cool possibilities. We already enjoy using AUM and Cubasis, but will be very interested to see if support for pro hardware improves now on iPad.

I love Cubasis, but it definitely has some frustrating bugs. The team is pretty responsive, but I'd be quite interested to see if Logic is any better.

Yep it's great overall but sometimes very confusing.

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by tgv »

tigeroil wrote: post #68
Kognito wrote: post #56

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Interesting change, I do wonder if the Mac apps will follow suit.

My guess, based on the fact that Logic Pro and FCP, in the nicest way I can say this, haven't had any meaningful core upgrades in a while, is that they're planning some fairly major updates on macOS for both and the plan is to release them as new, subscription-only versions later this year.

Are we talking about the same Logic Pro? https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203718 shows quite a lot of activity of the last 2 years. Idk what you consider a "meaningful core upgrade".

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by freedomben »

Applejinx wrote: post #78
tigeroil wrote: post #68

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My guess, based on the fact that Logic Pro and FCP, in the nicest way I can say this, haven't had any meaningful core upgrades in a while, is that they're planning some fairly major updates on macOS for both and the plan is to release them as new, subscription-only versions later this year.

Glad I moved to Reaper, then. Mind you, I'm still running Final Cut for video making. Hope I don't have to bail on that too. I'll keep running the version I have, but much like I don't use Adobe at all, I won't run such a program if I have to rent it. Exception, XCode :D most certainly have to pay yearly for that! But I view it as paying for authorization as an Apple dev, not so much as 'for the app itself'.

That's super interesting. having to pay for "authorization as an Apple dev" to me is a much, much larger outrage than having to rent an editor.

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by xattt »

Audiophilip wrote: post #108

Now I just wish iPads would have an audio jack so that I could plug in my headphone while using Logic.

Echoing other comments explaining why this release is a good development … If you need headphones or a speaker to hear sounds you create, you are not the target demographic.

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by mkaic »

kotaKat wrote: post #60
oger wrote: post #54

Interesting: Apple is moving their apps to a subscription model. „ Pricing and Availability Starting Tuesday, May 23, Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro for iPad will each be available on the App Store for $4.99 (US) per month or $49 (US) per year with a one-month free trial.8 Final Cut Pro is compatible with M1 chip iPad models or later, and Logic Pro will be available on A12 Bionic chip iPad models or later. Final Cut Pro…

It'd be interesting to see them modify their Apple One tiers. Split out Premier to a "Premier home" tier (keeping News+ and Fitness+) and a "Pro" tier at the same price that gives you 4TB of iCloud Drive + Logic and Final Cut instead of the 2TB/News/Fitness option.

There's a certain humor to the idea of Final Cut Pro being relegated to the Premier Pro subscription lol.

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by massysett »

nottorp wrote: post #73
crazygringo wrote: post #57

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Right, but that's the tradeoff and it's a good tradeoff for many. If you only need Final Cut Pro for a 2-month project, it's amazing because you'll save so much money. And any time you need it again, you just resubscribe. You're never losing access permanently, it's just $5 away. The point is that the flexibility and ongoing updates are a more beneficial tradeoff. A lot of people (like myself) simply don't care about…

> It's just a tool, and it loses value over time without updates anyways. Why? It will continue to do exactly the same thing. If that thing had no value to you why are you getting it? Edit: > Because the world moves forward. Something that might have worked well 5 years ago but has had no updates or improvements to keep up with competition is ultimately not as useful as it once was. Not everything is a javascript lib…

It will continue to do exactly the same thing…on exactly the same hardware and OS. Chances are that in several years, you’ll be using newer hardware and a newer OS. So the old software might not work at all. Or, it might work, but not use new hardware capabilities. An example of this is old X11 software: it runs on a modern Mac, but is unaware of Retina displays so it looks horrible.

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Post by manicennui »

basisword wrote: post #64

So many “I don’t get it” comments in this thread. And complaints about the subscription pricing. The market for this seems pretty obvious - teenagers. iPad seems like the default computer for kids these days and kids like to create. When I was a teenager I had to build my own PC, struggle to pirate Cubase and some plugins and it was a nightmare. When I finally got a MacBook Logic being $200 was out of reach still. A…

That is not at all the obvious market; people in the HN bubble are just ignorant of the creative world and love to shit on Apple. The iPad is already huge for content creation among professions. It has made a huge dent in the tablet market (think Wacom), and is heavily used by professional artists. The audio options are amazing and USB midi output on instruments is very common now and works with iPads. An actual computer will probably remain a key component in artists' workflows, but iPads and iPhones are increasing part of it.
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