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Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Having a full DAW on the go is a killer feature imho. The promise has been there since stuff like 8tracks on the iPhone 3G, and various Audio Units already on iOS. But I’ve always found the workflow very limiting or clunky. (Edit: I’m a Logic Pro user on macOS so my comments reflect getting things into that specifically) The divide from putting down an idea when it hits, to working it into something, has always been…

> DAW

Digital Audio Workstation (DAW)

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don’t need to get it. You do you. Every time you’ve replied to one of my comments in the past, it’s been very binary in terms of workflows and the discussions always devolve. So this time I’m leaving it as: I explained why it’s a big deal for me. If you have your own workflows or needs, so be it. But it’s irrelevant to why I like it. I don’t need velocity for a quick idea for example. I just need to get the idea…

All that's well and good, I'm mostly just agreeing with the people who suggest a Macbook for this. The iPad runs iOS, it's gimped for all kinds of creative applications. I won't judge you if you've found a workflow to apply it to, but the status quo feels unchanged. Professional DAWs existed on iPad before, the world beneath our feet didn't crumble or anything. > Besides, you can always connect an external midi keybo…

>The iPad runs iOS, it's gimped for all kinds of creative applications.

It's also a great form for many kinds of creative applications, and it's a very hassle-free, it just works experience for those.

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As many readers here probably understand from first hand experience, software isn’t a final product (typically). The majority of software requires maintenance and any ongoing feature updates have a continual cost on the company. If they asked for a subscription and said, no more updates after tomorrow, then sure that’s Bs. But especially for something like Final Cut, you’ll get continual updates and feature improveme…

I feel like folks on HN (many of us developers ourselves) give this theory too much credance. Subscription pricing may be necessary to finance continuous development, but that doesn’t mean it will. Many developers (particularly larger corporations like Adobe) have taken advantage of this perception to see how much money they can squeeze out of people while making… fewer updates than their users are paying for (to put…

Agreed, and further I don't think I buy the premise that without updates it won't work. For SaaS that's definitely true. For some desktop software that's true too, but it's true far less than we make it out to be nowadays. I have a handful of Android apps that got updated in a direction I didn't like that I still run and still run fine (sometimes dropping server supported features like old PocketCasts before the NPR acquisition) even though they haven't been updated in years. For apps that don't rely on server support this is nearly always true.

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Subscription. I'm out. I already paid for these softwares on Mac and I don't get even a discount in the price. I was expecting some kind of upgrade option.

Sure.. who's gonna pay for updates?

I don't understand how people on HN can devalue their own profession. By your reasoning, once an application has been released, you're out of a job.

Oh hey.. isn't that the current market!

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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post #54

Interesting: Apple is moving their apps to a subscription model. „ Pricing and Availability Starting Tuesday, May 23, Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro for iPad will each be available on the App Store for $4.99 (US) per month or $49 (US) per year with a one-month free trial.8 Final Cut Pro is compatible with M1 chip iPad models or later, and Logic Pro will be available on A12 Bionic chip iPad models or later. Final Cut Pro…

It's interesting as they was a big uproar weeks ago when audio plugins developer Waves tried to move to a subscription only model (they caved in four days).

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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post #49
post #11

Having a full DAW on the go is a killer feature imho. The promise has been there since stuff like 8tracks on the iPhone 3G, and various Audio Units already on iOS. But I’ve always found the workflow very limiting or clunky. (Edit: I’m a Logic Pro user on macOS so my comments reflect getting things into that specifically) The divide from putting down an idea when it hits, to working it into something, has always been…

As developers of professional audio plugins this is very exciting for us. The horsepower is there and the touch interface allows for some really cool possibilities. We already enjoy using AUM and Cubasis, but will be very interested to see if support for pro hardware improves now on iPad.

The lack of AU on Windows, and the lack of VST on any mobile device, is done more to hold back DAW than anything else.

Re: Apple brings Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to iPad

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Subscription! Even Apple has fallen. This is really disappointing.

$5/mo for top of the line software that will continue to get updates + new features + bug fixes is "really disappointing"?

Yes. The software will not receive updates forever. The Ipad will not receive updates forever. One day, this software will force the user to buy more Apple devices to continue using it.
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