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PornHub blocks users in Utah, cites state’s age verification law

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Do you think children should be able to purchase cannabis products at dispensaries?

As opposed to from some guy at their school, black market?

Of course there's a black market for anything but controlling distribution definitely does help.

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As early as 4. Not jumping straight to porn, but starting sex ed. It works very well in Netherlands, where teens end up having much healthier relationships, fewer sexual partners, and less unwanted pregnancies.

In what world is sex-Ed comparable to hardcore pornography?

Sex ed provides context to pornography. It doesn't compare but it sets a baseline as to what's normal and what's fiction.

I'm sure none of my school peers thought bukkake sessions were actually normal behavior even though they would have been aware of them.

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Multiple issues with this. It starts off with arbitrary definitions of what pornography is ( https://le.utah.gov/~2023/bills/static/SB0287.html ): "nipple of the female breast" You can suck on it when you are a baby, but god forbid you ever take a look at it again before you are married. What's wrong with these people? Even public nudity laws differ from city to city (e.g. in California), so clearly, people aren't al…

Is there a mechanism for empowering a polity to protect minors from certain things the polity deems they're not ready for that doesn't rely on arbitrary rules?

How about: If you don't want your kids to see it, that's on you. Either accept that you are a shitty parent who can't raise children to your satisfaction, or get better at parenting. Don't force consequences on me just because you are incompetent.

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Just the fact that pornography is being taken seriously as something that's dangerous for minors is a good thing really.

But is pornography dangerous for minors? Has it been researched? What "dangers" are there? Do these apply to all age groups of "minors"?

I don’t know how one would go about doing that research. Anecdotally I figured out the parental lock code on a cable box when I was 12, watched one of the porn channels, I was more excited that I was able to guess the code than anything else. The porn itself didn’t really have any impact on me.

My school also showed us Holocaust documentary footage around the same age. People getting shot in the head, piles and piles of dead bodies, etc. That plus gory movies like Hostel and scenes where people are chopped up and stuffed into a suitcase fucked me up WAY more than any of the porn I happened to come across at that age.

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Is there a mechanism for empowering a polity to protect minors from certain things the polity deems they're not ready for that doesn't rely on arbitrary rules?

Why do we need a policy? Why aren't parents doing basic things like setting up content filters?

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Multiple issues with this. It starts off with arbitrary definitions of what pornography is ( https://le.utah.gov/~2023/bills/static/SB0287.html ): "nipple of the female breast" You can suck on it when you are a baby, but god forbid you ever take a look at it again before you are married. What's wrong with these people? Even public nudity laws differ from city to city (e.g. in California), so clearly, people aren't al…

Mandatory reminder that the US covers more land area than the entire EU. And while the population is 185 million people smaller, think about how wildly different the various EU countries are culturally.

While the US has something of a shared culture, the South has a wildly different culture than New York. It's OK for Germany and France to say that the politics of Hungary and Poland shouldn't represent them, and vice versa.

Blanket statements about the US aren't much different than blanket statements about the EU. It greatly depends where you are. And in an alternate timeline, the US may have been more like the EU, especially back when US states had very large armies (er, "militias") of their own. And some still do though they are much smaller now (SDFs).

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No, but driving a car or possessing a gun does. Different solutions for different issues is hardly a contentious proposal.

Earlier you were concerned about the possible risk of addiction. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35788237 Are cars or guns regulated because of addiction? No. So GP compared porn to sugar, which is considered addictive and has probably more concrete evidence of self-harm than porn. I think the comparison is apt? Certainly fairer than comparing porn to driving a car or gun possession, which is sort of absurd.

Addictiveness was one of the multiple points I made about pornography. The other aspects apply to pornography and not to sugar. So it was apples and oranges to begin with.

But in terms of addiction potential alone Utah already has precedent in legislating for that. Example: Utah doesn't allow minors to purchase alcohol because of its addictive nature.

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They might if sugar was able to be consumed for free with virtually unlimited access. I'm not sure it's a very good analogy.

It more or less is? It's extremely inexpensive.

Extremely inexpensive is infinitely expensive when you're a 13 year old with 2 dollars to your name.

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I think it's perfectly fine to assume that pornography might warp a child's view of sex and intimacy. The solution shouldn't be to force people to identify themselves, though. Parents have all the tools they need to shield their children from pornhub, if they so wish.

I'm not really a fan of the solution (something more along the lines of the v-chip where commercial sites in the US are required to identify their content categories in a standard way so browsers could be configured to block it seems like a better solution), and sites like pornhub are straightforward enough to include in blocking software, but currently sites like Reddit present a problem. Looking at recent dumps[0],…

There's also the problem that lots is highly viewed NSFW content on Reddit isn't porn. Check out r/AskReddit. There are questions about how people feel about death that are marked NSFW for reasons I can't understand.
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