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Re: PornHub blocks users in Utah, cites state’s age verification law

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Post by 3np »

the_doctah wrote: post #304
sbaiddn wrote: post #273

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Call me a prude. Call me old fashioned. Call me small minded. But watching a woman getting chocked while DPed in her anus while a half dozen men ejaculate on her is not the type of extra-curricular activity [1] I want my soon to be teenaged daughters' boyfriends interested in. Im just... overprotective I guess. [1] If anyone calls me out for knowing what's on the front page of all of these smut sites, guess what? We…

Getting choked is a common fetish though.

Would it be as prevalent if minors weren't exposed to hardcore porn?

Re: PornHub blocks users in Utah, cites state’s age verification law

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Post by bumby »

loeg wrote: post #354
AlecSchueler wrote: post #336

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Yes it is, and that's why we teach our children about nutritional health and, in some places, regulate things like school dinners and products aimed at children. What point are you making in relation to the topic at hand?

I can't read GP's mind, but sugar doesn't require ID verification to buy in the state of Utah, for example.

They might if sugar was able to be consumed for free with virtually unlimited access. I'm not sure it's a very good analogy.

Re: PornHub blocks users in Utah, cites state’s age verification law

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Post by wkat4242 »

jen20 wrote: post #256
basisword wrote: post #227

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Where are you based? I can purchase alcohol from Amazon UK with no obvious age checks. Deliveroo require that riders verify your age but in reality they just ask you to type it in. And the major grocery stores deliver alcohol without any obvious checking too. I imagine teenage drinking is much easier these days thanks to the above :)

> I imagine teenage drinking is much easier these days thanks to the above When I was in (secondary) school in the UK, we could get served beer in the pub at lunchtime while wearing school uniform! Doesn't get much easier than that!

In Holland beer and wine was allowed from 16 years of age and only spirits were 18+. Unfortunately a recent conservative government switched it all to 18+.

I'm much older but I think 16 is old enough for a beer. I didn't when I were that age but I don't begrudge them their beer.

And it's not like the law will stop it from happening anyway.

Re: PornHub blocks users in Utah, cites state’s age verification law

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Post by loeg »

AlecSchueler wrote: post #347
ActorNightly wrote: post #300

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Porn is very addictive because the person has no idea how to form real life relationships and engage in real sex in a healthy way. In the same way video games are very addictive because it gives you a sense of accomplishment when you have no mental tools to go out and improve your situation in life. In the same way weed is addictive when you have no mental tools to face hardships in your life and you would rather esc…

Do you think children should be able to purchase cannabis products at dispensaries?

As opposed to from some guy at their school, black market?

Re: PornHub blocks users in Utah, cites state’s age verification law

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Post by 3np »

woeirua wrote: post #351
3np wrote: post #319

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> It makes no sense to me that every physical store in a state must check IDs if you want to buy porn Right?

Your position is that a 12 year old should be able to buy any porn that they want?

No.

Re: PornHub blocks users in Utah, cites state’s age verification law

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Post by loeg »

LinuxBender wrote: post #73
johnnymorgan wrote: post #6

In other news, VPN subscription sales explode in Utah! easy sales opportunity

I was thinking about this. Do sites like Pornhub use DRM in their players? Asking because AFAIK browsers will pass a network ID that does not change when DRM is used. In Firefox it is in "about:networking#networkid" and they don't make it easy to change that. I believe Chrome has something similar. I think it also uses serial numbers? Could be I am mixing up identifiers used in DRM vs. browser specific integrations.

I don't believe they use DRM.

Re: PornHub blocks users in Utah, cites state’s age verification law

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Post by ActorNightly »

AlecSchueler wrote: post #326
ActorNightly wrote: post #308

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You are totally right. While we are at it, lets ban video games because they obviously cause school shootings.

That's a strawman no? You're trying to colour my argument by associating it with another one. There are some notable differences though. If I play a violent video game then no one is actually being shot. If I watch a woman being choked and ejaculated on by 20 men calling her a worthless slut whore in a porno then I'm watching that genuinely happening. It's more akin to letting children watch videos from actual warzon…

Except that you skip over the whole "Media contains certain content -> viewing this content leads to bad behaviour -> said media should be banned" argument as being valid, which is not. You have to demonstrate the causal link between the first two.

Also, your subsequent argument is flawed. For the vast majority of popular porn, an actress in a scene where she is "abused" is doing so consensually. Part of having healthy romantic relationships in life is being able to navigate the aspect of consent. For example, a girl may have different standards for sexual intercourse when it comes to having a one night stand, where she may engage in kink or a fetish, versus a long term relationship where she may not want to do that. If you are unable to contextualize this, this means that your parents did a poor job of educating you about sexuality, which further reinforces my argument.

This absolutely does not equate to ISIS beheading videos, where the people being beheaded are most likely not consenting to it.

Re: PornHub blocks users in Utah, cites state’s age verification law

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Post by Aachen »

Eisenstein wrote: post #291
AlecSchueler wrote: post #281

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You can interview people about their past experiences.

You can't interview someone about something before that something exists though, which is what the parent comment is proposing.

Internet pornography exists, last I checked (also when I first checked, but apparently that should have been illegal). What are you referring to?

Re: PornHub blocks users in Utah, cites state’s age verification law

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Post by evantbyrne »

vlunkr wrote: post #166

I hope these laws don’t devolve into a special internet for Utah (and maybe more red states in the future). Remember this is about social media too. This is eventually going to hit even Hacker News if the law is actually effective. Is HN going to jump through the hoops of complying with the law or just block Utah?

Unfortunately, it isn't just smut on the internet that's being locked down. Red state politicians are doing everything they can to curtail freedom of speech and expression. First it's just about protecting children, then they go after adults. We are already seeing this play out with LGBT rights in other places. I never thought I would see such extreme changes in legal speech take place between red and blue states in my lifetime. The last couple years have been wild.

Re: PornHub blocks users in Utah, cites state’s age verification law

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Post by honkycat »

otabdeveloper4 wrote: post #250
themitigating wrote: post #198

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What about people in Utah who don't want this? You don't like porn don't use it. You don't want your kids to watch it, stop them. Restricting the freedom of everyone is unacceptable

> You don't like racism and homophobia then don't visit these sites. Restricting the freedom of everone is unacceptable Nno no no bros, not like that. (I'll show myself out.)

yes I would sincerely argue this.

What are you even trying to say? Is that not how it works currently? Freaking chud-brains lol.

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