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PornHub blocks users in Utah, cites state’s age verification law

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Just the fact that pornography is being taken seriously as something that's dangerous for minors is a good thing really.

Why do you think that? I think it's a good thing for minors to have unrestricted access to porn

Call me a prude.

Call me old fashioned.

Call me small minded.

But watching a woman getting chocked while DPed in her anus while a half dozen men ejaculate on her is not the type of extra-curricular activity [1] I want my soon to be teenaged daughters' boyfriends interested in.

Im just... overprotective I guess.

[1] If anyone calls me out for knowing what's on the front page of all of these smut sites, guess what? We all know what's on those sites!

Re: PornHub blocks users in Utah, cites state’s age verification law

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you arguing allowing children to view sexual acts is legally protected? Should we open up strip clubs and brothels for kids?

I was going to type out lengthy post educating you on the first amendment, content-based restrictions on speech, strict scrutiny, and responsible parenting. But then I was struck by the absurdity of good-faith engagement with someone who equates a de facto ban on adults enjoying pornography with bordellos for children. I hope you find peace and learn to accept yourself before you harm too many others in the name of w…

Don't gaslight me. You know good and well children aren't allowed the benefits of amendments. There is no ban on adults enjoying anything here, you're gaslighting. This is specifically about underage children, ya know the ones that legally aren't adults.

Maybe you ought to realize they're more important than your narcissistic behaviors? I'm so sick of this current generation of adults not being able to grow up and put the next generation before their own selfish interests.

Re: PornHub blocks users in Utah, cites state’s age verification law

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It seems most people recognize that the proliferation of easily-available porn has been a detriment to society I have not heard of this consensus. Where can I find out about it?

Do you think porn has been good for society?

In some ways.

Re: PornHub blocks users in Utah, cites state’s age verification law

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So your proposal is that every access to porn must be forever associated with your personal phone number?

Well... if you pay for this stuff, you're already having a credit card involved (for example. Maybe you're buying gift cards, and age gating can happen there!). If you're not.... maybe the decimation of free porn is not a bad thing for the universe. I do believe in privacy rights, but... free porn just doesn't feel like a must-exist thing in the sense we are all talking about. I do think that there's a universe where…

> I do believe in privacy rights, but... free porn just doesn't feel like a must-exist thing in the sense we are all talking about.

In other words, you don't actually believe in privacy rights because all it takes is one flimsy reason that you happen to, if not agree with, don't really find objectionable to violate them. Is the harm caused by anyone under arbitrary age seeing porn harmful enough to violate everyone's right to privacy, even when there are already existing solutions to help prevent minors from accessing pornography?

Parental controls exist. Tools to block websites like pornhub or any other porn website exist already. You might say that it's too easy to circumvent parental controls. I'd say that it's just as easy to circumvent ID requirements, so if your goal is to actually protect children from pornography, it's not going to be anymore effective than current access controls.

Re: PornHub blocks users in Utah, cites state’s age verification law

#277

Just the fact that pornography is being taken seriously as something that's dangerous for minors is a good thing really.

Porn is not dangerous, it is just parents that don't want to talk about sex with their kids. What is dangerous is social media, which should be banned < 21.

Pornography is dangerous. It's extremely addictive and users become increasingly tolerant to what their viewing, often leading to the development of distressing fetishes or real life intimacy issues.

I'm sex positive and I believe in being open with children about the realities of life but the dangers of pornography are real.

Re: PornHub blocks users in Utah, cites state’s age verification law

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The US is also planning a law that would make it illegal to use VPNs to skirt laws like this: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/04/could-tiktok-ban...

It always been illegal to use VPNs to skirt laws. Downloading movies doesn't become legal when you use a VPN, lol.

Re: PornHub blocks users in Utah, cites state’s age verification law

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For those who think this is just a Utah peculiarity, it's not. There have been attempts in Europe: - https://www.wired.co.uk/article/uk-porn-ban-digital-economy-... - https://www.wired.co.uk/article/germany-porn-laws-age-checks And its quite related to other pushes for age verification for social media services, as Utah and states like California have proposed: - https://www.axios.com/2022/09/16/california-law-websit…

If you’re concerned about privacy and anonymity, two huge strengths of the internet, it’s terrible.

Yeah, because the internet was free to access everyone, data became the background currency and advertisers figured out how to de-anonymize everyone years ago. That ship has sailed.
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