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Hetzner Introduces ARM64 Cloud Servers

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Post by FinnKuhn »

ChuffedToBits wrote: post #324
FinnKuhn wrote: post #313

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The German Passport has field for your Residence, which is mandatory and needs to be updated when you move. It is generally the general location you live in, usually your city. You can see the field in this official example passport (field 11): https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/normengrafiken/bgbl1_2017...

Ah, you're right. I guess I never looked at page 2. Never updated it either.

Technically you would need to do that I think (it is free at your local Bürgeramt). I just did it together with the registration.

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Post by bee_rider »

andix wrote: post #319
bee_rider wrote: post #221

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We have government issues ID cards, but we don’t have free government issued ID cards as far as I know, which is one of the problem with these voter ID laws.

In Austria it is fine to vote without an ID, if the members of the voting committee know you. On the countryside they usually do know their people. It’s mostly minor politicians (from all parties) that are in the voting committee, and they sit there all day to verify the election is not tampered with. And those politicians usually know everybody from their neighborhood. You need to be on their list though, but you ge…

In the US the states decide these rules, the federal government just sets limits. So, in my state, I just tell them my address, if I’m registered to vote they’ll have my name in the list, no need to show an ID or anything. They have a list of registered voters, so I guess if multiple people tried to give my name at my address, it would get flagged when the second person showed up. I actually don’t know what the procedure is. I think it almost never happens, at least, I’ve never heard of it happening to anyone.

Individual voter fraud is a silly way to influence an election, you have to get away with it thousands of times to make a dent.

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Post by Havoc »

johndough wrote: post #239
Havoc wrote: post #98

More benchmarking. Some of the speedtests coming back >10gigs is a bit of a surprise given price point https://hastebin.com/share/biyejiriyi.bash https://hastebin.com/share/unocorikef.bash https://hastebin.com/share/ujixoxazit.bash https://hastebin.com/share/ofezuyodob.bash

Huh, odd. I opened the URLs twice and got temporarily banned by hastebin. Thank you for the benchmark though. Very nice numbers.

Yeah also got some odd behaviour from the site.

Host wasn't my choice...just sharing the links

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Post by aendruk »

fckgw wrote: post #196
aendruk wrote: post #76

I’ve never paid much attention to Hetzner but this interested me. Upon clicking the call to action in the announcement they blocked me with “Request on Hold - Suspicous Activity Detected”. I have no interest in subjecting myself to this treatment.

Do you get this indigent over every error message you see?

I don’t think you were looking for a serious answer, but I’ve thought this over and there’s a broader point to be made here.

What I think you’re suggesting is that my trouble is with the machine—some version of frustrated human fighting with inanimate objects. In general this is a framing I oppose; automated machines are created by people, and people carry the responsibility for their creations. “The computer did it” is never an excuse.

So in a way, yes; I tend to view “error messages” as you put it as an extension of their creators, who very well may be worthy of indignation.

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Post by jrk »

re-thc wrote: post #326
loeg wrote: post #96

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> The company is set to only make the hardware available for priority scale-out customers who have already designed quad-socket and eight-socket platforms around the hardware. I work at one of those customers; we use loads of them. Nevermind Ice Lake / Alder Lake (2021) / Raptor Lake (2022) -- Intel hasn't abandoned the "Lake" naming scheme yet.

> Nevermind Ice Lake / Alder Lake (2021) / Raptor Lake (2022) i.e. Skylake+++++

No, starting with Ice Lake these are on the first actually-new core micro architecture after Skylake (it’s the “Cove” family, starting with Sunny Cove in Ice Lake). They have Lake in the name but these are actually a new micro architecture, finally, not Skylake family.

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Post by vineyardmike »

elzbardico wrote: post #305
vineyardmike wrote: post #208

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Yes we do have government provided ID cards. Your driver’s license (or if you don’t drive there’s a non-driver version that’s just a card). There is no mandate to get one or carry it (except for driving). We have issues with voter registration because it’s been politicized. Poor people are disproportionately less likely to have ID cards (because it costs money, takes time, and most people get it to drive which is exp…

South American countries with per capita incomes that sometimes are an order of magnitude smaller than the US managed to have national IDs for free to their entire population, and have required voter IDs for decades. This is a mind boggling American superstition, it is not reasonable to suppose that the poors in America are so poor that they can’t have access to something the poor in Peru or Paraguay have.

The issue is a little more nuanced than that.

Part of the issue is that you don't need an ID in America for most of your daily life. Most people get it to drive - if you don't have a car (which is actually expensive) then you may not get an ID at all. Yea most people will get an ID, but it's not something people need.

When it comes to the cost of the ID, part of the cost is taking time out of work to sit in a crummy office and fill out paperwork. They require certain proof of identity paperwork that can be hard to get for certain walks of life. Its quite an edge case in society that can't produce a small amount of paperwork to self-identify, of course.

Its a small cohort that truly don't have the resources to get an ID, but there is almost no observed downside to not requiring IDs to vote - American elections are and have been perfectly legitimate (or until 2020, depending on who you ask...). Why would we put up extra barriers to vote when we could just... not?

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Post by nixass »

2000UltraDeluxe wrote: post #108
nixass wrote: post #91

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> The required either PayPal or passport I had similar struggles with some non-IT service providers in Germany. They couldn't fathom why I have non-German nationality, German address and driving license from third country. Passport, German address and driving license all have different address on them (all three being EU addresses). It is apparently huge red flag in EU in 21st century. Incredible

You have an address on your passport? I can see how that could cause issues if the address isn't valid. If I'd have to determine if your order was fraudulent or not, I'd err on the side of caution rather than risk having you abuse my server infrastructure (in the case of Hetzner).

Yes, there's address on all three - passport, national ID and driving license. Passport and national ID are from southern EU country, driving license is northern EU country and I live in Germany. I have no intention on changing any of addresses on any of my IDs or driving license until legally required (10+ years from now).

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Post by Zvez »

martinald wrote: post #283
glutamate wrote: post #279

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A simple single node is often more reliable than a complex fault-tolerant setup. Fewer moving parts mean fewer broken pieces. Similar with security. A simple monolith is more secure than isolated front- and backend.

Agreed entirely for most. I have seen so many insanely complicated and eye wateringly expensive architectures for what are simple web apps on the big clouds. Often the team don't really understand the intricacies of all these services and how they interrelate which causes often cause a lot of stability problems. Even if they don't, there is usually a huge tax on developer productivity with these architectures, which…

>Let's keep in mind that modern hardware and software is very stable, generally

Not at any significant scale. dimm will fail, power will be down, disks will need replacement.

It is all about risks after all. If you are ok to have couple of hours of downtime if one of the memory sticks stops working - good for you. But generally any large enough business won't tolerate such risks.

I'm not saying that the cloud is the answer, but I don't see any future for single instance solution. And if you design your system like this, you are taking much more risks than necessary.

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Post by solarkraft »

jacooper wrote: post #282
usr1106 wrote: post #265

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Oracle did not accept my credit card. The same one AWS has been charging successfully for years. But I don't really want to do business with Oracle anyway, maybe it's better so.

Can confirm, they are very picky about the credit cards they accept.

Surprises me a little because I feel like I often fall victim to such things and had no issue at all. I used a fairly fresh N26 card - N26 is quite infamous for being easy for criminals to sign up for and being quite shady itself.

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Post by piperswe »

nine_k wrote: post #228
piperswe wrote: post #203

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I'm curious what distro you're using where there are missing packages. I've never run across missing distro packages on arm64 Debian (which I regularly use at work).

Have you faced issues with packages being too old on Debian Stable though? "Missing packages" may be packages missing important features or bugfixes.

I don't think I've ever run into an issue where arm64 packages are older than amd64 packages. Sometimes Debian Stable package versions are old, in which case I use backports, use the company's internal packages (which are often compiled for arm64), or compile it myself. It's no more of an issue on arm64 than on amd64.
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