Why? What is the advantage of running arm over x86 on servers?
Somebody down voted this. I really would like to understand why did they do it? What is wrong with this question?
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> For me at least, if I knew I was getting same performance for less energy I’d actually be willing to pay a bit more. Well if they're spending less to power my ARM machine, then they should damn well be charging me less to host it. That's the best, and only, long term path towards more efficient compute.
Interesting parallel is I have an electric car, which I pay more for and has limitations. But for me I think the societal benefit is great enough I’ll eat the cost. So if it gets data centers to invest in energy savings because they pocket the difference I’m ok with it.
> But for me I think the societal benefit is great enough I’ll eat the cost.
I don't mind eating the cost to save the planet if there is a cost.
What I am objecting to is businesses making a larger profit off people who want to save the planet.
They're literally taking your goodwill and turning it into profit. If they aren't interested in saving the planet, then why are you giving them money, instead of giving it to their competitors?
I guess the question is, why not pay less to save the planet? Your extra money doesn't go towards saving the planet, it goes towards making you feel like you're saving the planet.
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German Passports have the City/Region you life in on them. The ID cards have your full address. So if the address of your ID card doesn't match your passport something is definitely fishy as you would have to get them updated when you move.
German (and most other?) passports feature the name of the issuing authority and place of birth, no other location, and remain valid irregardless of your current registered address. Side note: It seems like many African ID cards list the profession and I've had to explain to several suspicious border guards why my passport doesn't. EDIT: I've always wondered about this and apparently the body that sets passport speci…
The German Passport has field for your Residence, which is mandatory and needs to be updated when you move. It is generally the general location you live in, usually your city.
You can see the field in this official example passport (field 11): https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/normengrafiken/bgbl1_2017...
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#314Why? What is the advantage of running arm over x86 on servers?
What I want to know is why migrate to ARM when RISC-V is around the corner?
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> set hard boundaries on responsibilities and accountability while ensuring independent decision-making This isn't really true as most of the time the services interact heavily and need to be aligned with each other not to break and work properly. And all what you're speaking of can be achieved by properly modularizing the code of a monolithic application. And microservices if you want them can be run on a single mac…
> This isn't really true as most of the time the services interact heavily and need to be aligned with each other not to break and work properly. I'm not sure you got the point. The need to provide interfaces and establish contracts and pledge SLAs is irrelevant and a non-issue. Naturally, your goal is to have a perfect uptime and never break interfaces, just like your goal when working on a monolith is to not add br…
While picking any stack you want may sound wonderful to the individual developer, it's less so for the company as a whole that has to maintain different languages and frameworks, when that developer moves on and now they have to find or hire someone else to keep that service running.
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This is a very German thing. I’ve never seen ID cards from other countries that include an address of residence. Also the obligation to own an ID card is a very foreign concept in most other countries. I had that issue with German companies before, especially those who rarely deal with international customers. For example in Austria only a few people own an ID card (most people have a passport, but not everyone). So…
Apparently, it isn't obligatory to have an ID card here im Germany. My friend researched this last time his ID was about to expire and decided to go with passport only. The only problem is when you have to verify your address, since that's usually done via ID.
True. But it’s still obligatory to have an ID. In a lot of countries this is not the case.
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If there were no microservices, a lot of companies would run their monoliths on a few VMs, with a small fraction of the cost ;)
If you ignore the costs from stuff like vmware, vcenter, windows server, etc... sure. But it's weird to forget that managing VMs was a huge expense even before the shift to the cloud. No one was just hosting a few dozens or a few hundreds VMs without very expensive management software.
I’m not saying that you shouldn’t use the cloud for deploying your software. But instead of deploying hundreds of small services, you may just deploy a handful bigger ones, and are still good. And you may also not need 30 different AWS services, you may be good with a database, maybe a message broker and a container runtime.
If you keep the infrastructure simple, it’s also much easier to switch cloud provider and to set up testing systems.
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Yup, reason why we stay in AWS
If that’s the only reason, we offer managed databases of many flavors on hetzner. https://www.ayedo.de
That’s awesome, good to know. Do you provide a self service portal and an API for your services, or is it a manual process? Because on the website it always refers me to get in contact with sales. And you know how much developers hate human interaction :D
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Yes we do have government provided ID cards. Your driver’s license (or if you don’t drive there’s a non-driver version that’s just a card). There is no mandate to get one or carry it (except for driving). We have issues with voter registration because it’s been politicized. Poor people are disproportionately less likely to have ID cards (because it costs money, takes time, and most people get it to drive which is exp…
We have government issues ID cards, but we don’t have free government issued ID cards as far as I know, which is one of the problem with these voter ID laws.
In Austria it is fine to vote without an ID, if the members of the voting committee know you. On the countryside they usually do know their people. It’s mostly minor politicians (from all parties) that are in the voting committee, and they sit there all day to verify the election is not tampered with. And those politicians usually know everybody from their neighborhood.
You need to be on their list though, but you get added automatically by the city to the list. When you move you need to register your new address, so they know that you live there.
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It ranges from $10 to $90 depending on the state (average is ~$30) and most states also have a discounted rate for people under the poverty line.
It is unacceptable to charge people any amount of money for a voting requirement.
True, but in Europe usually everybody has an ID at some point, because you need it for traveling. And an expired ID also works to prove your identity.
But in theory you could also bring two or more „identity witnesses“ that either have an ID or are known to the people at the voting station, that can vouch for your identity.