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After 30 years, a father is exonerated in 'Satanic panic' case

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Re: After 30 years, a father is exonerated in 'Satanic panic' case

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Post by throwawaylinux »

PartiallyTyped wrote: post #217
throwawaylinux wrote: post #176

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And I suppose those who harm gay people by bullying them and publicly shaming them deserve everything that's coming to them, especially if they're doing from a hypocritical and misguided delusion of righteousness... Again missing the point. It isn't a challenge to defend oneself, it's an invitation to reflect. Less talking, more thinking.

Again completely missing the point, nobody is bullying them because they are gay, nor are they being bullied. They are facing the consequences of purposefully breaking the social contract by harming LGBT people.

> Again completely missing the point, nobody is bullying them because they are gay, nor are they being bullied.

That's not what the list says.

Re: After 30 years, a father is exonerated in 'Satanic panic' case

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Post by throwawaylinux »

anigbrowl wrote: post #228
throwawaylinux wrote: post #176

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And I suppose those who harm gay people by bullying them and publicly shaming them deserve everything that's coming to them, especially if they're doing from a hypocritical and misguided delusion of righteousness... Again missing the point. It isn't a challenge to defend oneself, it's an invitation to reflect. Less talking, more thinking.

Your point is misdirection.

What do you think my point is, and what is it "misdirecting" from?

Re: After 30 years, a father is exonerated in 'Satanic panic' case

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Post by flir »

transcoderx wrote: post #221
flir wrote: post #109

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As a very rough rule of thumb, if it comes in pill form, it's probably not surgery.

The issue is kids being transitioned, in whatever way. The pills build up towards surgery.

I saw your other comment before it got deleted. I know you for what you are.

Re: After 30 years, a father is exonerated in 'Satanic panic' case

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Post by transcoderx »

pigsty wrote: post #124
transcoderx wrote: post #57

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They did not propose mutilating surgeries to people throughout history. Also trans people existing does not mean there can't be a mass hysteria of kids being told to transition on shoddy scientific evidence.

Belief in mass hysteria is itself the most common form of mass hysteria.

So is the mass hysteria now the belief that there is a mass hysteria against trans people, or the belief that there is a mass hysteria of kids being pushed to transition?

Re: After 30 years, a father is exonerated in 'Satanic panic' case

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Post by xsmasher »

throwawaylinux wrote: post #123
shrikant wrote: post #103

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There's this website cataloguing such hypocrites for nearly 20 years running now -- https://gayhomophobe.com/

Compiling lists of suspected homosexuals. Interesting. Another famous phrase from literature comes to mind, "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster."

But "compiling lists" is good, or at least neutral, right? Where would mankind be if we weren't allowed to compile lists?

You can't remove all the context from an action and claim the general case and the specific case are identical. That's like saying "Punching is just swinging my arm; you can't arrest me for swinging my arm!"

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Post by jretsy »

vidarh wrote: post #140
mpweiher wrote: post #115

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To judge that, we would have to have some idea whether they actually reduce the risk of suicide. "...a negative association found many years after treatment is compatible with three scenarios: puberty blockers reduced suicidal ideation; puberty blockers had no effect on suicidal ideation; puberty blockers increased suicidal ideation, albeit not enough to counteract the initial negative effect of psychological problem…

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Re: After 30 years, a father is exonerated in 'Satanic panic' case

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Post by notahacker »

transcoderx wrote: post #223
notahacker wrote: post #165

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Nope. In case you haven't noticed we're replying to an article about "moral panics". Somebody upthread pointed out that there is currently a moral panic centred on transpeople. Politicians talking about "demons and imps", banning drag shows and "eliminating" trans identity or introducing the felony offence of having the wrong books in the classroom are examples of this phenomenon. Despite the OP's denials, this pheno…

I've never heard demons and imps as an argument. Can you explain to me why children need to see drag shows, which are about sexual attraction, and why they need porn in the classroom?

It was an argument from one of the definitely-not moral panicking Florida legislators whose legislation you're defending. Sounds super scientific to me!

Drag shows aren't necessarily about sexual attraction and most the definitely not moral panicking laws in question makes being a "male impersonator" or "female impersonator" in the presence of children (or in some cases within quarter of a mile of them!) a felony rather than the actual content, which would be a shame for the pantomimes I used to attend as a kid. And strangely, there wasn't much porn in classrooms before the definitely-not-moral-panicking parent vetting organizations started picking titles like Anne Frank's Diary as "sexually explicit"

Re: After 30 years, a father is exonerated in 'Satanic panic' case

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Post by themitigating »

kevviiinn wrote: post #158
themitigating wrote: post #22

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It's not "just" politics. Laws effect people.

You're right, perhaps I phrased that poorly. What I meant was that it's par for the course for the reactionary US political party. Definitely a bad thing

" the reactionary US political party"

Republicans. I don't like the new subtle false equivalence. They are traitors.

Re: After 30 years, a father is exonerated in 'Satanic panic' case

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Post by themitigating »

transcoderx wrote: post #192
zrail wrote: post #131

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Kids get fed mountains of acetaminophen every year. Why do you suppose that acetaminophen packages have prominent warnings about not exceeding dosages? It's because acetaminophen is extremely hepatotoxic at levels not very far above the recommended dosages. > Hepatic injury and subsequent hepatic failure due to both intentional and non-intentional overdose of acetaminophen (APAP) has affected patients for decades, an…

Do you know of many cases of children being mutilated for life from Tylenol? Also your assertion is just a wild guess.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3383545/
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