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After 30 years, a father is exonerated in 'Satanic panic' case

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Re: After 30 years, a father is exonerated in 'Satanic panic' case

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Post by themitigating »

the_doctah wrote: post #9
d6e wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And the current one is all the fear about transgender people. America seems to always need to be afraid of some group of people

I think it's more about the children having radical surgery backed by zero scientific research. Couldn't care less what adults want do to themselves.

Is that why drag shows are banned?

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Post by themitigating »

kevviiinn wrote: post #7
d6e wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And the current one is all the fear about transgender people. America seems to always need to be afraid of some group of people

It's just reactionary politics

It's not "just" politics. Laws effect people.

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Post by timmytokyo »

d6e wrote: post #6
1letterunixname wrote: post #2

Other moral panics of thundering herds of dumb: - Salem witch trials - Know Nothing-Party - KKK - McCarthyism - Rock and roll - Banned books - Sex education - Heavy metal - Gay movement & HIV/AIDS - Video games - People who consume Fox News - People who consume US local news - Anti-immigrant hysteria Roughly 1500 innocent individuals have been executed in the US. 100k's of innocent individuals languished slowly and l…

And the current one is all the fear about transgender people. America seems to always need to be afraid of some group of people

And as you can see, even Hacker News is not immune to this latest moral panic. Sadly, once a moral panic starts, it's nearly impossible to stop. It has to destroy an egregious number of innocent lives before society finally comes to its senses, at which point the panic slowly fizzles out.

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Post by pigsty »

friend_and_foe wrote: post #17
d6e wrote: post #6

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And the current one is all the fear about transgender people. America seems to always need to be afraid of some group of people

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Transgender people have existed throughout history and on every corner of the earth. They’re documented in basically any society with written records.

But for some reason, in 2023, people (mainly Americans) think it’s something new and they demand to be angry about it.

Re: After 30 years, a father is exonerated in 'Satanic panic' case

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Post by at_a_remove »

klyrs wrote: post #11
the_doctah wrote: post #9

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I think it's more about the children having radical surgery backed by zero scientific research. Couldn't care less what adults want do to themselves.

People believing that masses of children are literally getting surgery, circumcision notwithstanding, is a result of a persistent campaign to cause panic. And it's the same hucksters selling fear to the same religious reactionaries. New day, new apocalyptic scapegoat.

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Post by beebeepka »

8f2ab37a-ed6c wrote: post #3

A similar travesty of justice happened in Italy in the late 90s with a bunch of parents going to jail, their kids being taken away by the local child protection services, parents committing suicide from the trauma etc. Two decades later, as part of an investigation, the kids (now adults) came out as saying that they were brainwashed, they were pressured into confessions of satanic rituals in the local cemetery, of bl…

Absolutely horrible. As always, all these things that made no sense at all, boiled down to certain people trying to gain something/make money.

It was never about saving the kids :(

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Post by jgaa »

In Norway, this fire was lit by a high ranking police officer in the state criminal police, it's "FBI". Many people was hurt, falsely convicted and many lives was destroyed. In the police, and in the child abuse industry, money was made and careers built on these lies.

The police officer who brought this mental pest to Norway was eventually arrested, naked, hiding behind a bush in his neighbors garden - spying on a little girl.

If I remember correctly, one of the driving forces for this hysteria in the USA, another police officer, was eventually convicted for rape.

I think it was Hermann Hesse who wrote that "If you hate a person, you hate something in him that is part of yourself. What isn't part of ourselves doesn't disturb us."

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Post by drewcoo »

1letterunixname wrote: post #2

Other moral panics of thundering herds of dumb: - Salem witch trials - Know Nothing-Party - KKK - McCarthyism - Rock and roll - Banned books - Sex education - Heavy metal - Gay movement & HIV/AIDS - Video games - People who consume Fox News - People who consume US local news - Anti-immigrant hysteria Roughly 1500 innocent individuals have been executed in the US. 100k's of innocent individuals languished slowly and l…

When was the "moral panic" over the KKK, exactly? Usually the term means an irrational fear.

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/ideo...

Other parts of the list are also obnoxious and/or offensive but I didn't want to dissect it all.

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Post by deserialized »

friend_and_foe wrote: post #18
deserialized wrote: post #13

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If that were true circumcision and forced surgery on intersex kids would be banned too.

That's also a good idea.

Yes, it is - but that would upend the 'only two genders/sexes' status quo and we can't have that. Imagine the mass panic and moral decay that would ensue.

Why bother loving your kid for who they are when you can just ask the docker to slice them up before they can consent? Or deny them access to Healthcare based on your own feelings because you really like your kids genitals...

/s

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Post by raffraffraff »

8f2ab37a-ed6c wrote: post #20
blackwateragent wrote: post #15

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> a special spot-the-satanist training that the teachers received as part of their professional development [...] https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diavoli_della_Bassa_modenese (unfortunately no En version of the page) I'm curious, as there is no English page, do you have any more information I can pursue regarding the 'spot-the-satanist training'? Curious what exactly that entailed and the signs they looked for.

It's cited in the Audible series itself (that's where the investigation was originally published: https://www.audible.com/pd/Podcast/B08JJNYH2J ), which is many hours of content, so I wouldn't be able to easily dig that up unfortunately. If I recall correctly, it was a wave of professional instruction that was making its way through either teacher ed or psychologist ed, I imagine of US/UK origin. Do a search for "sat…

Those responsible rarely get their comeuppance. I mean the academics and psychiatrists who invent this baloney, and continue pushing it for years, sustaining the delusion. Some of them are still practicing today. They've casually moved onto other things.
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